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    Re: World's First GM Babies Born

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    Gee, when I first read the subject line I thought it was about General Motors,
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    And what a wonderful choice. I'd go with the mathematical genius, also a wonderful choice. What you don't seem to see is that so many of our greatest humans have gotten that way by battling genetic illness/predisposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Is it their right to do this? Do human being have a right to genetically modify their offspring?
    I would argue that they do, especially when the modification occurs before the offspring is even conceived.

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    Their offspring has no say in the matter so if what pro-lifers argue about an unborn child not having a say in the matter and that they have rights also is correct reasoning then wouldn't the same apply here also? If a ZEF has rights then wouldn't this be interferring with those rights?
    Offspring's got no say in being born, either, or in who its parents are. No difference. Genes are genes no matter where you get them from.

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    Re: World's First GM Babies Born

    What could possibly go wrong?

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    I think this is one of those situations that we might HAVE to go down this road whether we want to or not. The rest of the world is not subject to our code of ethics or morality and you can bet that this science is already wildly advanced beyond anything that you are going to hear about publicly.

    You can literally send your brain into overload trying to contemplate all of the potential ramifications. Interesting times we live in for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Gee, when I first read the subject line I thought it was about General Motors,
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    Re: World's First GM Babies Born

    Let me be the first to welcome our new little overlords. All hail our new masters!

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    Wait until somebody figures out the genetic predisposition to voting Republican or Democrat. Instead of importing new voters, Democrats will just breed them.

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    Re: World's First GM Babies Born

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    That would be about cloning. Which this is not about. This is about genetic manipulation to enhance our physical bodies. Be it to get rid of diseases or other "enhancements" I'm not sure.

    I'm actually of two minds about these kinds of things. Excuse the geekiness here but Star Trek actually dealt with some of the possible issues of genetic manipulation. I know, its fiction, not reality. But the points that were brought up are still valid. In the original series they had Kahn who was suppose to be stronger and smarter than the normal human, unfortenately it also gave him an arrogance to match. In another show they tried to make humans immune system attack germs and virus before it even entered the body, which ended up attacking other humans that were not modified. While these things may not happen it is still a possibility. Ones which could bite us in the butts after its too late to do anything about it.

    I would have to say that if we are going to be doing this then there are going to have to be ground rules put into place not just in what is done, but also in how not only they are treated but also in how those who have not been genetically enhanced are treated.

    This is just one HUGE can of worms. I wonder if we are ready for it.....
    Good afternoon, Kal'Stang.

    Long time no see! We must be posting on different threads...

    Excellent post! I was an avid follower of the StarTrek series, and I have them all on DVDs so I can re-watch them at leisure. So many times scientists discover something that could be beneficial, but then carry that thought further into things that were never imagined initially. What's to stop them from proceeding further to see what is possible? Nothing. That's what research is for, I guess.

    There was also a series called "First Wave" that covered this topic, but unfortunately DVDs are not yet available, or I would have them! In one show humans were modified to give them gills to breathe underwater for harvesting plant life from oceans.. Anything is possible. "If you can imagine it, you can achieve it" William Arthur Ward.
    I am not sure we are ready for it.

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