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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good idea? Until such time as self-centered humans get the idea that breeding genetically perfect children for spare parts sounds good.
    That would be about cloning. Which this is not about. This is about genetic manipulation to enhance our physical bodies. Be it to get rid of diseases or other "enhancements" I'm not sure.

    I'm actually of two minds about these kinds of things. Excuse the geekiness here but Star Trek actually dealt with some of the possible issues of genetic manipulation. I know, its fiction, not reality. But the points that were brought up are still valid. In the original series they had Kahn who was suppose to be stronger and smarter than the normal human, unfortenately it also gave him an arrogance to match. In another show they tried to make humans immune system attack germs and virus before it even entered the body, which ended up attacking other humans that were not modified. While these things may not happen it is still a possibility. Ones which could bite us in the butts after its too late to do anything about it.

    I would have to say that if we are going to be doing this then there are going to have to be ground rules put into place not just in what is done, but also in how not only they are treated but also in how those who have not been genetically enhanced are treated.

    This is just one HUGE can of worms. I wonder if we are ready for it.....
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    Re: World's First GM Babies Born

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    What's the issue? The gene pool will remain diverse as long as the donors of the third set of cells they use is not the same.
    It's not a diversity issue but more a matter of taking dominance out of the natural realm and substituting it for whatever the current fad is of preference. All the parents choosing blue eyes and blonde hair is a shallow example. WE have no way of knowing the effects that will ultimately have upon the species and our ability to survive going forward.

    Then again, you could NetFlix Gattaca. Or read Brave New World.

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    Re: World's First GM Babies Born

    Who finds it wrong morally to have a enhanced child without cancer if its not natrual who thinks it's right .... That is a more intresting Debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Ever heard that is just a movie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Maybe so but they have a right to do this and it is not your business to interfere.
    Is it their right to do this? Do human being have a right to genetically modify their offspring? Their offspring has no say in the matter so if what pro-lifers argue about an unborn child not having a say in the matter and that they have rights also is correct reasoning then wouldn't the same apply here also? If a ZEF has rights then wouldn't this be interferring with those rights?
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    Re: World's First GM Babies Born

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    That's ridiculous. What does this have to do with art or the lack thereof?
    I didn't see where in the article it said they tinkered with depression, but I could be wrong.

    At any rate, how many great artists were depressed? Van Gogh, Cobain...possibly Lennon. Just about any emo band. Just to name a few. I don't necessarily think it's a coincidence.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: World's First GM Babies Born

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    That would be about cloning. Which this is not about. This is about genetic manipulation to enhance our physical bodies. Be it to get rid of diseases or other "enhancements" I'm not sure.

    I'm actually of two minds about these kinds of things. Excuse the geekiness here but Star Trek actually dealt with some of the possible issues of genetic manipulation. I know, its fiction, not reality. But the points that were brought up are still valid. In the original series they had Kahn who was suppose to be stronger and smarter than the normal human, unfortenately it also gave him an arrogance to match. In another show they tried to make humans immune system attack germs and virus before it even entered the body, which ended up attacking other humans that were not modified. While these things may not happen it is still a possibility. Ones which could bite us in the butts after its too late to do anything about it.

    I would have to say that if we are going to be doing this then there are going to have to be ground rules put into place not just in what is done, but also in how not only they are treated but also in how those who have not been genetically enhanced are treated.

    This is just one HUGE can of worms. I wonder if we are ready for it.....
    Not so geekie - one of the reasons the original Star Trek was so popular and has lasted and survived the test of time was it's social consciousness and how it treated moral and societal issues looking forward. Roddenberry was a true visionary. And I agree with what you've posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    Ever heard that is just a movie
    Yep, Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman kinda gave it away.

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    Re: World's First GM Babies Born

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Is it their right to do this? Do human being have a right to genetically modify their offspring? Their offspring has no say in the matter so if what pro-lifers argue about an unborn child not having a say in the matter and that they have rights also is correct reasoning then wouldn't the same apply here also? If a ZEF has rights then wouldn't this be interferring with those rights?
    Last time I cheecked a Zef had no thoughts and was unaware not even a fetus . The zef would more likely not want to have a blindness or a medical conditions

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