This stuff always reminds me of Hitler.
This stuff always reminds me of Hitler.
"To waste, to destroy, our natural resources, to skin and exhaust the land instead of using it so as to increase its usefulness, will result in undermining in the days of our children the very prosperity which we ought by rights to hand down to them."~ Theodore Roosevelt (Message to Congress, Dec. 3, 1907)
If one of my grand kids or a friend's grand [ or greatgrand] child end up breeding with one of these freaks of science, well, lets just say, I'd like to keep my options open.
I have a god daughter with downs syndrome. I love her, and would do anything I could to help her have a happy life. If I could snap my fingers and make her downs go away, I'd do it in no seconds flat. And if I was a parent and knew my child was going to have something like that and I could spare them the pain and trouble that goes along with something so serious, I'd do what I could to help them with that.
I have a friend born without a leg beyond the knee one side and beyond the shin on the other. He's perservered wonderfully (was actually a wrestler in high school) but I don't doubt that if you ask him "hey, if you could've been born with both full working legs, would you have preferre that" that he'd say yes.
My family has a history of heart problems. Great grandfather died from a heart attack young. My grandfather died at 36 to a heart attack. My uncle has been on heart medication since he was in his early 20's. I could easily have seen my mom, if it was available, taking steps to remove the genetic disposition I'd have to heart issues.
I understand all those things and couldn't blame a parent one bit for doing them...and really could view them as very good things.
But I fully understand the worry over the technology....
How many steps is it from removing a genetic predisposition for Downs Syndrome to trying to impart a genetic disposition for high IQ?
How many steps is it from removing a genetic defect for a deformity to trying to tinker because they don't want a kid with freckles?
How many steps is it from removing the genetic predisposition for heart disease to actually trying to cultivate a heart capble of peek athlete levels cardiovascular activity in maturity?
I can fully understand the worry that we'll go from using it to correct/limit dabilitating handicaps to using it to create a "superior" breed of human for those with the cash to do it.
As to those saying it's unnatural...I have issues with that. Is it unnatural for a damn built by a beaver to block a water way? Is this tinkering not coming about due to our NATURAL ability to reason and think leading to us discovering the methods for which to do it?
"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.
You know what's interesting here is everyone hates Monsanto for its genetically altered seed but they are fine with doing the very same to human babies. apparently doing it in corn is evil in babies is good.
I think this is the more salient point. Messing with genetics when we don't actually understand the full ramifications of such meddling is a recipe for pain and suffering.
I really don't get the enthusiasm... we can't even understand the human body well enough to avoid regularly producing medicines that kill us AND do what they are supposed to... but playing with human DNA is A-OK?
Last edited by jmotivator; 04-24-13 at 09:49 AM.
Oh well. Anyway, if they were able to cure depression without harming creativity it's hardly like I'd have a problem with that. I do find it kind of doubtful that there is a universal constant like the speed of light that demands that if you cure depression you MUST eliminate creativity.
Still, it's kind of hard to see how this doesn't lead to a Gattaca scenario.