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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    As far as I can tell no one in medical community is in collusion to protect Gosnell or anyone else who murders born alive infants.
    So you don't consider Planned Parenthood to be in the medical community?

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I find one greatly more illegal than the other. The comparative morality is irrelevant as far as the law is concerned.
    Not at all. Legality is nothing more than publicly enforced morality. But your refusal to answer the question (which cannot be adequately answered from your position) is noted .

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    According to the grand jury investigation he took the records of the women he performed illegal acts on and hid them in his home. It seems he did not report them at all.
    Actually I misremembered.
    According to the investigation Gosnell took the records home and
    destroied them.


    Most of these acts cannot be prosecuted, because Gosnell destroyed the files.



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    The files for these patients were not kept at the office; Gosnell took them home with him and disposed of them. We may never know the details of these cases.
    Gosnell Acquitted on 3 Counts of Murder, 5 Counts of Corpse Abuse in Grisly Murder Trial | Pitts Report
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Not at all. Legality is nothing more than publicly enforced morality. But your refusal to answer the question (which cannot be adequately answered from your position) is noted .
    Legality is publicly enforced protection of rights.

    The law doesn't recognize the ZEF as having any rights.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Legality is publicly enforced protection of rights.

    The law doesn't recognize the ZEF as having any rights.
    Any idea at all where you got those "rights"?

    There are more than "Zefs" involved here.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Legality is publicly enforced protection of rights.
    partially. we believe it is moral to do so. your continued inability to answer the question is noted.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    partially. we believe it is moral to do so. your continued inability to answer the question is noted.
    Note away!!

    Far be it for me to stop anyone from noting something that isn't true
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Actually I misremembered.
    According to the investigation Gosnell took the records home and
    destroied them.




    Gosnell Acquitted on 3 Counts of Murder, 5 Counts of Corpse Abuse in Grisly Murder Trial | Pitts Report
    You're being tottally dishonest here. The statements that I cited, about Gosnell fudging records, deal with late term abortion, Abortions that would not have simply made the cut-off limit for viability.

    What you are citing are the records of the live deliveries and 'snipping" procedure

    Over the years, there were hundreds of “snippings.” Sometimes, if Gosnell was
    unavailable, the “snipping” was done by one of his fake doctors, or even by one of the
    administrative staff. But all the employees of the Women’s Medical Society knew.
    Everyone there acted as if it wasn’t murder at all.
    Most of these acts cannot be prosecuted, because Gosnell destroyed the files.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    You're being tottally dishonest here. The statements that I cited, about Gosnell fudging records, deal with late term abortion, Abortions that would not have simply made the cut-off limit for viability.

    What you are citing are the records of the live deliveries and 'snipping" procedure
    No, you're being dishonest. Let's review exactly what is being disputed here

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Only .08 percent of all legal abortions that place in the USA are after the limit of viability.
    I've seen no evidence that the # of abortions Gosnell performed would have seriously affected the # cited here. Even if Gosnell performed 25% of all late-term abortions, that would have only changed the # from .08% to .10%

    The point being that abortions that occur after viability are a miniscule portion of the whole. Implying otherwise is inherently dishonest
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I've seen no evidence that the # of abortions Gosnell performed would have seriously affected the # cited here.
    who said that gosnell's clinic would have some drastic effect on that number? The issue raised was that the number is unreliable, due to the inability to audit and lack oversight. Gosnell just serves as an example to show how those metrics make such possible with a real world example.

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