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Thread: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    moral fascist?

    are you not a moral fascist, since you support laws based on morality
    I support laws which are based on the constitution.

    The constitution does not give the govt the power to ban abortion.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    1.)Yes, in your analogy there is one sole statement of an eyewitness account. This ignores there were multiple eyewitness accounts.



    2.)I've been rather clear that I do think they have a professional and moral obligation to do so, yes.




    3.)I don't think you really understand how things like "fact", "logic" and 'debate" really work. If something can be "factually" established it wouldn't be "debatable". And many important things are "debatable". SO what we do in "debate" is present our arguments for why something is correct, based on supporting fact and logic, because we are unlikely to find 'factual" evidence one way or the other
    1.) no thats what YOU think my analogy was about, in fact it was simply about word of mouth isnt factual or knowledge
    but please tell ME again what MY analogy was about

    sorry it ignores nothing

    2.) great then you can stop talking about it lol

    3.) so no you do not have any facts and the statements i made are still 100% correct. Thanks

    lets reflect.

    the thread title is currently factually not accurate based on any evidence we have
    also currently, we have ZERO proof of PP knowing anything besides woman had complaints
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I support laws which are based on the constitution.

    The constitution does not give the govt the power to ban abortion.
    the constitution does give government the power to protect life though.

    but aside from that, the constitution does not give government the power to make people /business moral or immoral, meaning discrimination laws on people or business are unconstitutional, ---------->because they are based on morality.

    and you support discrimination laws on people and business, meaning your forcing your moral values on them.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    yes i can, all my questions still apply

    you posted 3 links

    2 support the current evidence that PP didn't factually know anything accept that some woman had complaints and that they told the woman they should report their complaints to the appropriate authorities.

    1 link is a story about some random PP facility that seems to be in violation and it looks like action will be taken against that facility as it should if its true.

    so again, what did i miss?
    nothing... if you read them, it was for your viewing pleasure...i made no comments enforcing them or disavowing them.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the constitution does give government the power to protect life though.
    So it's unconstitutional to kill animals?

    Or do they not have lives?
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So it's unconstitutional to kill animals?

    Or do they not have lives?



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    do you see animals anywhere?

    government is to secure the rights of the people

    --"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

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    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

    do you see animals anywhere?

    government is to secure the rights of the people

    --"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"
    That's the DOI, which has no legal force.

    Don't you know the difference between the DOI and the Constitution?
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    nothing... if you read them, it was for your viewing pleasure...i made no comments enforcing them or disavowing them.
    thanks it was a view pleasure reading links that support the fact i have been stating.

    and it did lead to a NEW question and another thing that if it is true id like to see action taken.

    If PP CEO did factually know, action should be taken
    but now, also, if PP was referring woman to that doctor for late term abortions and those late term abortions would be illegal action needs take against that too
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That's the DOI, which has no legal force.

    Don't you know the difference between the DOI and the Constitution?
    i know them both very well, and the founders say are rights are self-evident, and they are natural after the constitution was ratified.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    thanks it was a view pleasure reading links that support the fact i have been stating.

    and it did lead to a NEW question and another thing that if it is true id like to see action taken.

    If PP CEO did factually know, action should be taken
    but now, also, if PP was referring woman to that doctor for late term abortions and those late term abortions would be illegal action needs take against that too
    well everyone translates it different, i saw an admission and a denied by PP.

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