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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    1.)i will just restate this again.

    2.)PP has admitted it knew of problems, but PP has to stated "ignorance" when it comes to what happened at the clinic.

    3.)they cannot admit they knew of an illegal activity or it dooms the people and the organization as a whole.

    how? do you know of problems at the clinic, and then say......we are ignorant on what went on there.
    1.) thanks it changes nothing
    2.) yep, problems that were complaints, ignorance as in they didn't know what the actual problems were
    3.( they could but probably wouldnt but again this changes NOTHING
    4.) easy, in my example i KNEW OF THE PROBLEMS in the marriage but i was IGNORANT to the fact that the girl was cheating and the guy was beating her

    what dont you understand?

    thanks for restating but nothing has changed, sorry you have no proof of what you claimed
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    if they did, those saying it would go to jail.
    Thank you for agreeing with me.

    As I said, there is no evidence that anyone ever told PP of anything criminal
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Thank you for agreeing with me.

    As I said, there is no evidence that anyone ever told PP of anything criminal
    we (PP) knew of problems at the clinic, ......but we are ignorant on what went on there.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    we (PP) knew of problems at the clinic, ......but we are ignorant on what went on there.
    There is no evidence that PP knew of any criminal activity at Gosnells' clinic
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    we (PP) knew of problems at the clinic, ......but we are ignorant on what went on there.
    yep they knew of complaints but did not know what was factually happening there

    again what dont you get

    I knew of the problems in that marriage but i was ignorant to the cheating and abuse.
    again, what are you trying to IMPLY?
    what dont you understand?
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    1. Well, we ought to wait and see how extraterrestrials regard us before giving them rights.



    2. But the unborn are neurologically active, with brains, after a certain point which is actually very early on, still in the first trimester.



    3. No, this isn't correct if you go by "neurologically active" and possessing a "mind" by which I presume you mean functioning brain.

    4. Baby killing is the law of the land. Planned parenthood was originally all about keeping specific populations under control, by which it was meant undesireable populations like non-whites and the mentally ill and deformed. From that day to this Planned Parenthood has been focused mainly on these populations, and with great success.

    5. It's not complicated. We just decided to let people kill babies who were inconvienent or unwanted. That's really all there is to it. All this stuff about neurologically active and so on is just so much lame-assed BS rationalization.

    6. Don' you worry none. They ain't gonna change dat law no MATTER what. Yo can going on killing babies to yo heart's content, active neurological systems, functioning minds and all.

    7. Besides which, there are, as you point out, certain utilitarian benefits from the practice. I'm especially fond of the way in which liberals are so much more likely to get abortions.
    1. Yeah it could be deadly

    2. Nope the fetus does not become truly neurologically active until the 22 week of pregnancy. This activity is only a generative one, the spontaneous nerve pulses could merely be autonomous or spontaneous reflexes aimed at stimulating and developing muscle and organ tissue. Nevertheless, it is in this month that a complex cerebral cortex, appears and is typically complete. What is actually going on mentally at that point is unknown, but the hardware is in place for a mind] to exist in at least a primitive state.

    3. Oh yes it is read number 2 again

    4. Now you're just ranting

    5. Abortion is meant to get rid of the undesirables that's a cold fact and is not rationalizing I am merely telling you straight up how we roll

    6. 99.9% of the time when they're aborted they have no minds. About 47 million abortion worldwide a year are performed it's horrible in the eyes of the pro lifers and watch helplessly as there precious fetuses they want to roam the planet are being replaced on a daily basis. The unborn are replaceable that's the cold truth no rationalizing there

    7. I don't care about liberals getting abortions. Catholics and protestants get them as well. All demographics get them and I don't care which one get's the most. No need to make this political

    But anyway utilitarian wise this is what abortion is currently doing

    Population Control
    Eugenics 90% diagnosed with down syndrome are aborted for example
    Saves money
    Saves time
    Saves space
    Keeps nature healthy longer as mankind is slowly destroying it bit by bit
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    What is "alive" and how does it apply to the fetus?

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Abortion is still not killing people.
    In your warped mind.

    They were screaming when he 'snipped their spinal cord'.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    In your warped mind.

    They were screaming when he 'snipped their spinal cord'.
    Those weren't abortions.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Nice dodge. Maybe someday, you'll actually tell us what PP should have specifically complained about.
    Or you could read up on the trial. The clinic conditions were filthy. There are pictures available of some of the equipment, and you can see for yourself.

    There was a systemic failure--Gosnell had been reported, but the health dept. didn't follow up. He continued to ply his trade for 17 years: Pill-mill by day and abortion mill by night. It was a narcotics task force that brought him down.

    If women were coming to PP clinics and complaining, what do you think they were complaining about? The receptionist being rude?

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    From the grand jury report (page 2):

    The clinic reeked of animal urine, courtesy of the cats that were allowed to roam (and defecate) freely. Furniture and blankets were stained with blood. Instruments were not properly sterilized. Disposable medical supplies were not disposed of; they were reused, over and over again. Medical equipment – such as the defibrillator, the EKG, the pulse oximeter, the blood pressure cuff – was generally broken; even when it worked, it wasn’t used. The emergency exit was padlocked shut.

    http://www.phila.gov/districtattorne...ensmedical.pdf

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