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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    Apparently PP was under no legal obligation to report it. That said, I DO think medical practitioners should be legally obligated to report this kind of malpractice, and in some cases flat out murder.
    Here may be one reason why:

    "The advent of "safe, legal abortion" didn't interfere with Gosnell's back-alley career. The grand jury's account suggests that other abortionists treated him less as an outlaw than as a niche player in the abortion market. He earned a bad reputation in Philadelphia but received referrals from across the Eastern Seaboard. Many of the women dispatched to him were "well beyond" 24 weeks pregnant, the legal limit in Pennsylvania.

    ...The grand jury did not name any of the clinics, hospitals or doctors who made referrals to Gosnell, except for a Delaware clinic where he also worked part-time. Its narrative suggests, however, that "legitimate" abortionists routinely availed themselves of Gosnell's services to help their patients evade legal and ethical limits on late-term abortion. This may be a fruitful subject for legislative investigation, either in Harrisburg or Washington."
    James Taranto: Back-Alley Abortion Never Ended - WSJ.com

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    So under this logic we can charge the NRA and gun dealers with negligence also? Oh yeah, the right does not like their hypocricy pointed out.
    Stick to the topic please.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Abortion is still not killing people.
    You must give birth to toasters then right?
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    A lobbyist for a regional division of Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion business in the United States, says a doctor and a mother should be allowed to decide to kill a newborn who survives an abortion.

    The stunning position echoed statements made by Barack Obama while he was in the state Senate in Illinois, and repeatedly opposed a proposed law that would have obligated physicians to provide care to a baby surviving the abortion procedure.


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    The Planned Parenthood comments came at a recent Florida legislative hearing from Alisa LaPoit Snow, who was opposing a proposal that would require a doctor to provide care to an infant whom an abortion failed to kill.

    Lawmakers were stunned, asking the same question over and over.

    “So, it is just really hard for me to even ask you this question because I’m almost in disbelief,” said Rep. Jim Boyd. “If a baby is born on a table as a result of a botched abortion, what would Planned Parenthood want to have happen to that child that is struggling for life?”

    Snow’s response?

    “We believe that any decision that’s made should be left up to the woman, her family, and the physician.”

    The same, or very similar, questions followed several times, as if the lawmakers could not believe the position advocated.

    “You stated that a baby born alive on a table as a result of a botched abortion that that decision should be left to the doctor and the family. Is that what you’re saying?” wondered Rep. Jose Oliva.

    Snow didn’t change her response.

    “That decision should be between the patient and the health care provider,” she said.


    Read more at Planned Parenthood lobbies for ‘post-birth abortion’
    Bottom line is that these people think it is perfectly fine to kill babies.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Gosnell's practice was not a PP facility, so why are they getting dragged into this mess? People need to stop assuming PP when they hear the word abortion. That's like calling all facial tissues Kleenex. PP doesn't run every abortion clinic in the country, nor are they affiliated with every abortion clinic.

    The day I even consider switching to pro-life would be the day someone can remember the time they were in the womb. The reason why no one can remember is because their brain wasn't fully developed. I know that may piss some people off, but think about it.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Balls View Post
    Gosnell's practice was not a PP facility, so why are they getting dragged into this mess? People need to stop assuming PP when they hear the word abortion. That's like calling all facial tissues Kleenex.
    Or all sodas Cokes. Or all searching the internet Googling. People do these things for a reason. They are the leading provider of abortions, by far, and they are a very large member of the abortion lobby in this country. They are synonymous with abortion. That's how that works.

    And they are getting "dragged in" because people in their organization allegedly knew what Gosnell was doing - which we now know to be committing mass murder - and did nothing.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Not living creatures of their own, but keep trying that sad emotional argument when you have no rational one.
    Newborns are not independently living 'creatures' either. Without proper care they die. So at what point is it appropriate to stop killing babies that cannot support themselves?

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    So under this logic we can charge the NRA and gun dealers with negligence also? Oh yeah, the right does not like their hypocricy pointed out.
    Fell free to shut up and stay on topic.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    "...Planned Parenthood Southeast Pennsylvania president and CEO Dayle Steinberg admitted this week at a fundraiser that the abortion business knew of the problems at Gosnell’s Philadelphia abortion facility.

    Apparently Planned Parenthood did not report it to the state health department or other state or local officials who could have done something about it. Instead, it appears the abortion giant left it up to women Gosnell injured or traumatized to make public officials aware of his House of Horrors." Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors | Dr. Kermit Gosnell | Fox Nation

    Here is part of what Steinberg said at Planned Parenthood Pennsylvania's Spring Gathering:

    “The Gosnell trial has shifted the focus off the high-quality services we provide,” said Dayle Steinberg, the organization’s president and chief executive. “These are criminal, horrendous . . . acts and should be appropriately punished. ...We would always encourage them to report it to the Department of Health." Gosnell worker testifies to seeing baby make swimming motion in toilet « Hot Air

    PP was not required to report Gosnell...but why didn't they anyway when they knew what he was doing? Why did they leave it to individual women who had been patients to contact the Dept. of Health?

    Suggests collusion to me.
    PP was either grossly hypocritical in not reporting, or they felt that there was some benefit to them for the clinic to exist.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    So under this logic we can charge the NRA and gun dealers with negligence also? Oh yeah, the right does not like their hypocricy pointed out.
    How idiotic. The NRA does not cover up gun crime, it advocates for stopping it and prosecuting it.
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