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Thread: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You understand very little about what I think.
    You think that morals are subjective, correct?, and that the law should not concern itself with morals.

    What more is there to know?

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Are you pretending to be obtuse, or is this the way you normally are? We're discussing abortion. Not some looney bin psycho scenario that rarely occurs.
    Speaking of 'obtuse', why not check out the name of the thread?

    "Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors"

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    not so rare
    Quite right. if it was that rare there would not have been a law introduced to prevent late term abortion, and Barry Obama would have had no need to vote against it.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Doesn't make either one de facto wrong either

    Morals are not "de facto" right or wrong. They are subjective
    No, sorry, some "morals" (or "taboos," as you prefer) aren't "subjective." "Society" generally regards sex with little kids as wrong. If you want to say that "wrong" is "subjective," fine with me. I'm pretty sure if you look hard enough, you can find an example that will be an exception that somehow proves that it's not true that 100% of the time, sex with little kids is "bad." But this will be an extremely atypical example, one that demonstrates how the "exception" does, in fact, "prove the rule."

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You think that morals are subjective, correct?, and that the law should not concern itself with morals.

    What more is there to know?
    Once again, you've done a 180
    Your arguments are so inane that even you wont stick by them
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    No, sorry, some "morals" (or "taboos," as you prefer) aren't "subjective." "Society" generally regards sex with little kids as wrong. If you want to say that "wrong" is "subjective," fine with me. I'm pretty sure if you look hard enough, you can find an example that will be an exception that somehow proves that it's not true that 100% of the time, sex with little kids is "bad." But this will be an extremely atypical example, one that demonstrates how the "exception" does, in fact, "prove the rule."
    Sorry, but you're wrong. If you were right, you'd be able to provide objective proof. What "society" "generally" "regards" is neither objective nor proof.

    The only thing you've shown is that morality is defined by cultural and political processes, which makes them subjective.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Call me when it can breathe, communicate, process food on its own etc. Oh it can't? Then it's hardly independent. Subjective definitions of human life does not a human being make.
    It's not the womans body. It's an independent biological entity that is of the human species. It's a human life separate from the life of the mother (or father). It's an individual life.

    Just so that we are being factual, the fetus does process food on its own. It's provided with nutrients, even at the level of a zygote the cell performs its own metabolism. I also don't see why breathing air is relevant either. It's in an airless environment while the organs required to breathe air are developing.

    By all rational an biological accounts the ZEF is a human life at every stage. That's just fact. Now, if we want to get to subjective definitions of "person-hood" and somehow use that to rationalize why it's acceptable to kill a human life we could go there.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Sorry, but you're wrong. If you were right, you'd be able to provide objective proof. What "society" "generally" "regards" is neither objective nor proof.

    The only thing you've shown is that morality is defined by cultural and political processes, which makes them subjective.
    Whatever, dude. If you and I can't agree that most of the freaking planet agrees that sex with little kids are wrong, I have to leave you with your bizarre conceits.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Whatever, dude. If you and I can't agree that most of the freaking planet agrees that sex with little kids are wrong, I have to leave you with your bizarre conceits.
    Most of the world agrees that sex with children is wrong. That doesn't make it objectively true, just as believing that the world was flat didn't mean that was objectively true.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Most of the world agrees that sex with children is wrong. That doesn't make it objectively true, just as believing that the world was flat didn't mean that was objectively true.
    Oh, well, exactly, Sangha. Exactly. Hat doffed.

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