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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

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    Actually the point is well made. Slavery is an excellent example of evil being socially acceptable. Not bathing has never been considered 'evil'.
    so what current "evil" are you talking about?
    are you deeming that abortion is factually evil?
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Actually the point is well made. Slavery is an excellent example of evil being socially acceptable. Not bathing has never been considered 'evil'.
    And with that post, you made the dishonesty and disingenousness of your argument clear.

    The important part of the comparison was not the social acceptability part, as you dishonestly tried to assert. It was the moral judgment part of it.

    To which I say, **** those morals and **** the moral fascists who want to use the govt to force people to adhere to their sick sense of morality
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

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    And with that post, you made the dishonesty and disingenousness of your argument clear.

    The important part of the comparison was not the social acceptability part, as you dishonestly tried to assert. It was the moral judgment part of it.

    To which I say, **** those morals and **** the moral fascists who want to use the govt to force people to adhere to their sick sense of morality
    Yes, I understand that you have little use for morals and that they are all "subjective". Others feel morals are valuable in maintaining a social equilibrium in order that all our lives becomes a little easier, with less fear.There are times I feel your side is winning as you do get a lot of support. Suppressing information is also advantageous to those who chose to live a moral free life.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, I understand that you have little use for morals and that they are all "subjective". Others feel morals are valuable in maintaining a social equilibrium in order that all our lives becomes a little easier, with less fear.There are times I feel your side is winning as you do get a lot of support. Suppressing information is also advantageous to those who chose to live a moral free life.
    You understand very little about what I think

    The law is not for enforcing morals. It is for protecting rights, and maintaining order.

    It is also ironic that the only way you can argue the superior morality of your position is by telling lies.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors

    You may find this article/web post to be a response to your question. Link:Media Matters Ignores Gosnell Grand Jury to Defend Planned Parenthood.

    Also, I feel the argument that a baby's brain needs to be fully developed to be considered life is rather disrespectful to those who children/adults with incomplete or abnormal brain development and are fully alive sotospeak. Further, does anyone remember BEING a newborn? Are newborns not alive? Lastly, has anyone seen a study where they ask pregnant women or those who already had children, if they felt as though they were carrying a life or not. I would be curious to hear the responses. Just some food for thought.

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Balls View Post
    Gosnell's practice was not a PP facility, so why are they getting dragged into this mess? People need to stop assuming PP when they hear the word abortion. That's like calling all facial tissues Kleenex. PP doesn't run every abortion clinic in the country, nor are they affiliated with every abortion clinic.

    The day I even consider switching to pro-life would be the day someone can remember the time they were in the womb. The reason why no one can remember is because their brain wasn't fully developed. I know that may piss some people off, but think about it.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Then kill it. What a plan!
    Your emotional outburst is understandable but unnecessary. Ain't nobody got time for that.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You really haven't heard what happened either?

    Here ya go.Media Ignores Abortion Provider Gosnell
    Are you pretending to be obtuse, or is this the way you normally are? We're discussing abortion. Not some looney bin psycho scenario that rarely occurs.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    not so rare

    This story -- which if nothing else suggests that live births do, in fact, happen during late-term abortions -- upsets a particular narrative about the reality of certain types of abortion, and that reality isn’t something some pro-choice absolutists want to discuss.
    Why Is the Press Ignoring the Kermit Gosnell Story? - Bloomberg

    This has disturbing implications for late-term abortions. It suggests that sometimes those fetuses are delivered alive. Worse, it hints at what we might be doing inside the womb to ensure that the other ones aren't.
    Why I Didn't Write About Gosnell's Trial--And Why I Should Have - The Daily Beast

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    april 17:

    Tracy Weitz, associate professor at the University of California, San Francisco, explained: “When a procedure that usually involves the collapsing of the skull is done, it’s usually done when the fetus is still in the uterus, not when the fetus has been delivered.”

    Dr. Weitz added that third-trimester abortions involve “euthanizing” the baby with a chemical injection, and then basically going through labor and delivery.

    Here’s the [partial] transcript of Weitz’s response:

    I think it’s important to recognize that this particular procedure is nowhere in the medical literature. When a procedure that usually involves the collapsing of the skull is done, it’s usually done when the fetus is still in the uterus, not when the fetus has been delivered.

    Traditionally, when that procedure is done which involves the collapsing of the skull, it’s done at the junction between the later second trimester and the beginning of the third trimester — that’s around 24 weeks. It is not done at this significantly later period.

    When inductions for delivery — that is, in the third trimester, when procedures are performed, when abortions are performed, they are usually done as inductions. That is, they look much more like a labor and delivery. And the fetus is traditionally euthanized before that procedure is initiated. Two drugs, either potassium chloride or digoxin, are used to make sure that the fetus is not living before the procedure is initiated.
    The collapsing of the skull is usually done when the fetus is still in the uterus | WashingtonExaminer.com

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    pusillanimous president, pp poison

    today: Obama backs out of Planned Parenthood keynote address - Washington Times

    oh, he'll still be there

    just when no one can see

    he can't say jihad, either

    that's some pretty big issues he's gotta duck

    for the next 3 and a half years...

    good luck with all those tax hikes

    maybe marco will come thru!

    where do you go to get back your self respect?

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