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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I get so tired of the "they can't live on their own so they aren't really people" crap.

    A day old baby can't live on his own.
    A 3-month old baby can't live on his own.
    A 2 year old can't live on his own.
    A 10 year old can't live on his own.

    Heck - many adults can't live without sucking the teat of the government everyday.
    It reminds me far too much of the warped morals and logic that led us to allow for slavery and the dehumanization of Africans. People arbitrarily deemed them "not people" because of "x" characteristics and that allowed for them to be owned, enslaved, and killed. I see people labeling unborn children as "not persons" and thus it's fine for them to be legally killed and that being allowed to do so is a "woman's right."
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It reminds me far too much of the warped morals and logic that led us to allow for slavery and the dehumanization of Africans. People arbitrarily deemed them "not people" because of "x" characteristics and that allowed for them to be owned, enslaved, and killed. I see people labeling unborn children as "not persons" and thus it's fine for them to be legally killed and that being allowed to do so is a "woman's right."
    Exactly.

    And those who do say that abortion is the killing of a human, will rationalize it in any way that they can. Because....women's rights!!...or something...


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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

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    Are you saying that terrorism is not a criminal act?
    I made no mention either way but it is generally acknowledged that terrorism is illegal.

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I get so tired of the "they can't live on their own so they aren't really people" crap.

    A day old baby can't live on his own.
    A 3-month old baby can't live on his own.
    A 2 year old can't live on his own.
    A 10 year old can't live on his own.

    Heck - many adults can't live without sucking the teat of the government everyday.
    Actually... that's not what is intended by "live on its own". A 10 day old fetus can't breathe on its own, or even be fed through any natural means. It can't articulate through any known gestures discomfort or pain. It can't communicate hunger or any other human need. So why is it a person? Because it has human DNA? So do the millions of poor living children you want to cut welfare programs for. You don't seem all that worried about them.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Exactly.

    And those who do say that abortion is the killing of a human, will rationalize it in any way that they can. Because....women's rights!!...or something...
    You have to rationalize in order to allow for an ethical atrocity to take place like that. Just say that because they aren't "persons" or that they are "parasites" or that you are "enslaving a woman's body" or "restricting bodily sovereignty" along with all the slander that gets tossed out towards pro-life people (like saying they are anti-woman, misogynists, pro-rape, etc.) and another such nonsense that it rationalizes killing them in ways that we couldn't even execute serial murderers where the death penalty is legal. I could also guarantee you that it would be deemed a "cruel and unusual" punishment under the law.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It reminds me far too much of the warped morals and logic that led us to allow for slavery and the dehumanization of Africans. People arbitrarily deemed them "not people" because of "x" characteristics and that allowed for them to be owned, enslaved, and killed. I see people labeling unborn children as "not persons" and thus it's fine for them to be legally killed and that being allowed to do so is a "woman's right."
    Hahaha, this is so ridiculously dishonest I'm pretty sure I just threw up a little on my book. Brb, gotta go get a kleenex to clean the bull**** in your post off my monitor.
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Actually... that's not what is intended by "live on its own". A 10 day old fetus can't breathe on its own, or even be fed through any natural means. It can't articulate through any known gestures discomfort or pain. It can't communicate hunger or any other human need. So why is it a person? Because it has human DNA? So do the millions of poor living children you want to cut welfare programs for. You don't seem all that worried about them.
    So it can be aborted ten days or prior?

    Where were welfare programs mentioned?

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

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    Hahaha, this is so ridiculously dishonest I'm pretty sure I just threw up a little on my book.
    That's nice
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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Hahaha, this is so ridiculously dishonest I'm pretty sure I just threw up a little on my book.
    Then you shouldn't have any problem in pointing out the dishonesty, right?

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    Re: Planned Parenthood Knew of Gosnell's Abortion Horrors [W:24]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    That's nice
    Nicer than a fundamentalist christian pretending to be a human rights defender.
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