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    Re: Teamsters aim to shield Boston funeral from Westboro picketers

    Thank you "union thugs"


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    Re: Teamsters aim to shield Boston funeral from Westboro picketers

    What? You mean teachers?
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    Re: Teamsters aim to shield Boston funeral from Westboro picketers

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    Re: Teamsters aim to shield Boston funeral from Westboro picketers

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    Re: Teamsters aim to shield Boston funeral from Westboro picketers

    Bring on the Patriot Guard Riders!

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    Re: Teamsters aim to shield Boston funeral from Westboro picketers

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, Westboro had it's right to conduct such protests upheld by the Supreme Court under the 1st amendment and the ruling wasn't close.

    If you believe in the constitution, you can't just believe in it when it suits your purpose or when you agree with the way someone is exercising their rights under the constitution.

    If the Teamsters and others wish to counter protest, more power to them - attacking them as they protest, not so much.

    I understand the church decided not to protest so problem solved and please don't misinterpret my comments as agreement with what the church does, I just support their rights to do so.
    Then fine, let them protest and tell the whole world that the victims the families are burying are going to hell....

    But not in their friggen' faces, at their friggen' church, during their friggen' funerals, while they are friggen' grieving. The first Amendment does not apply to screwing over someone else's right to privacy, and they deserve a good ass kicking for it.

    Rights have limitations and responsibilities. You have the right to go anywhere you want, but if you break into my home, you get shot. By the same token, if Westboro Baptist Church tries to disrupt a funeral, then you can bet your ass that the Supreme Court will uphold the rights of the victims and their families to defend their right to privacy. Let the union and bikers put their stamp of disapproval on their sick asses. And I pray to God.... Not their God, but the real God, who despises these assholes.... that it hurts like the place they are going to when they die.
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    Re: Teamsters aim to shield Boston funeral from Westboro picketers

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Then fine, let them protest and tell the whole world that the victims the families are burying are going to hell....
    As I pointed out earlier, in the Snyder case, the family wasn't even aware that the Phelps clan was there until they saw it reported on the news. So the current laws dealing with protests around cemeteries seem to be doing their job.

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    Re: Teamsters aim to shield Boston funeral from Westboro picketers

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Don't the westboro baptist church have any shame? I thought scum would at least have shame.
    Calling the WBC scum would be an upgrade, they are lower than scum.

    As for the OP, I rarely like Union actions or unions, the Teamster Union has a bad reputation but I 100% support this action on their part. Good on 'em.
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    Re: Teamsters aim to shield Boston funeral from Westboro picketers

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    all religions have a degree of hate.
    I disagree. I'm Catholic but don't hate sinners, just the sin(though I'm not all that religious). I'm not a huge fan of Southern Baptists because we had a preacher who was instrumental in getting most of our "blue laws" passed around here, BUT, there was a Baptist group from Texas who came down here to help with feeding and caring for SE Louisiana refugees when Katrina hit, nice people and all they wanted to do was help out, didn't even try to spread the word unless asked. That's the opposite of hate, they lived the word during very trying times.
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    Re: Teamsters aim to shield Boston funeral from Westboro picketers

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, Westboro had it's right to conduct such protests upheld by the Supreme Court under the 1st amendment and the ruling wasn't close.

    If you believe in the constitution, you can't just believe in it when it suits your purpose or when you agree with the way someone is exercising their rights under the constitution.

    If the Teamsters and others wish to counter protest, more power to them - attacking them as they protest, not so much.

    I understand the church decided not to protest so problem solved and please don't misinterpret my comments as agreement with what the church does, I just support their rights to do so.
    This is why I disagree with the courts on the issue. Yes, WBC has a right to free speach and as detestible and absolutely horrid as their speech is, it must be protected.

    Here is where I think the line should have been drawn.........and in accordance with many SCOTUS tests established in the last century.
    1) Time/Place/Manner - saying "we disagree with homosexuality and feel in our hearts that soldier deaths are a punsihment" is a far cry from "Thank God for dead soldiers" or "God hates fags" during a time of sadness, i.e., the burial of a loved one.
    - Time - During that mourning period
    - Place - Cemetary, which is a private establishment. As well the family is paying for the funeral, it is at that time "their space"
    - Manner - Such that it could cause a situation of violent confrontation. (I know if I lost a loved one and someone picketed their funeral I'd be ready to tear their head off.....literally)
    2) Fighting words; The doctrine specifically states that violence is not subject to legal enforcement, and speech is not protected should it become such that the average person upon hearing it would be compelled to such anger that they would engage in violence. If pissing on the funeral of a loved one doesn't meet that I don't know what does.
    3) Is it SLAPPS protected? SLAPPS being(Serious, Literary, Artistic, Political, philisophical, or Scientific) value, anything that meets SLAPPS is absolutely protected, but that which appeals to a prurient interest as defined by the average person withing a community which fails the test is much less protected. To me, picketing a funeral is too low to meet any basic standard of protection.
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