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    FBI Hunts Terror 'Sleeper Cell' Linked to Tsarnaev Brothers

    The FBI is hunting a 12-man terrorist "sleeper cell" linked to the brothers suspected of carrying out the Boston bombings.

    The Bureau believes that Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev received training in bomb-making before they carried out the attack, which killed three people.

    It emerged that a man and two women were arrested 60 miles from Boston in the port of New Bedford in the hours before Dzhokhar's capture. The three are believed to be of college age.

    A source close to the investigation said: "We have no doubt the brothers were not acting alone. The devices used to detonate the two bombs were highly sophisticated and not the kind of thing people learn from Google.

    "They were too advanced. Someone gave the brothers the skills and it is now our job to find out just who they were. Agents think the sleeper cell has up to a dozen members and has been waiting several years for their day to come."

    More than 1,000 FBI agents have been assigned to track down the cell. A specialist team of CIA and FBI interrogators is on hand at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Centre in Boston, waiting to question Dzhokhar.

    The FBI has admitted interviewing Tamerlan two years ago, at the request of the Russian government, but said it wound up its inquiries after interviews with Tamerlan and other family members "did not find any terrorism activity, domestic or foreign".

    The FBI now says the pair were part of a terrorist cell, though they were not under surveillance at the time of the bombings, US Government officials said.

    The brothers were carrying six bombs, a handgun and a rifle at the time of the shoot-out in which Tamerlan was killed. Three devices - thought to be pipe bombs - were detonated.

    Investigators are working to establish whether the brothers had help in making the bombs, which were contained in pressure cookers and packed with nails and ball bearings.
    Boston Marathon Bombings: FBI Hunts Terror 'Sleeper Cell' Linked to Tsarnaev Brothers - IBTimes UK

    our worst nitemare

    the fbi originally denied contacting the bomber

    dzhokhar was shot thru the throat, perhaps self inflicted

    the three arrested in new bedford were two young men and a woman from kazakhstan

    the plates on her bmw read terrorista

    the brothers tsarnaev were here as refugees, granted political asylum

    the younger became an american citizen on, of all dates, 9-11-2009

    obama urges deliberation

    Obama Warns "Not To Rush To Judgement" About "Motivations" And "Groups" | RealClearPolitics

    on the other side, the locals play political polyanna

    Boston mayor says brothers acted alone - POLITICO.com

    pray for the victims and the loved ones
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    Re: FBI Hunts Terror 'Sleeper Cell' Linked to Tsarnaev Brothers

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    Boston Marathon Bombings: FBI Hunts Terror 'Sleeper Cell' Linked to Tsarnaev Brothers - IBTimes UK

    our worst nitemare

    the fbi originally denied contacting the bomber

    dzhokhar was shot thru the throat, perhaps self inflicted

    the three arrested in new bedford were two young men and a woman from kazakhstan

    the plates on her bmw read terrorista

    obama urges deliberation

    Obama Warns "Not To Rush To Judgement" About "Motivations" And "Groups" | RealClearPolitics

    on the other side, the locals play political polyanna

    Boston mayor says brothers acted alone - POLITICO.com

    pray for the victims and the loved ones
    I think its a bit premature to be particularly outraged about what did or did not happen here and whether it could have realistically been prevented.

    Give it a few weeks for more information to come out about who was really behind this (if other than what we now see) and what the motivates were. Just like reporting on the news before you have the facts leads one astray; so does jumping to conclusions about a small set of facts when there is so much that we do not know.

    This issue could be far more (or less) complex than we currently think it is. Its hard to have an intelligent discussion now.

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    Re: FBI Hunts Terror 'Sleeper Cell' Linked to Tsarnaev Brothers

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I think its a bit premature to be particularly outraged about what did or did not happen here and whether it could have realistically been prevented.

    Give it a few weeks for more information to come out about who was really behind this (if other than what we now see) and what the motivates were. Just like reporting on the news before you have the facts leads one astray; so does jumping to conclusions about a small set of facts when there is so much that we do not know.

    This issue could be far more (or less) complex than we currently think it is. Its hard to have an intelligent discussion now.
    I agree. It is way too soon to come to any conclusions, but it is human nature to want immediate answers especially due to the vast amounts of information from all sources that we instantly receive.
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    Re: FBI Hunts Terror 'Sleeper Cell' Linked to Tsarnaev Brothers

    This is literally the exact opposite of everything that's reported elsewhere. Thus far, authorities have said that they believe the brothers were acting alone - not as part of a terrorist cell. Also, I think the three people who were taken into custody cited by the article were released. I think they were friends of the younger one who were taken in for questioning and found to be innocent of any potential involvement.

    I think people need to calm down and wait for actual information. Thus far, much more of the media than I would think has been rather tempered in drawing conclusions about motives and "sleeper cells" and the extent Islam was involved in the attacks. That's a good thing.

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    Re: FBI Hunts Terror 'Sleeper Cell' Linked to Tsarnaev Brothers

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I think its a bit premature to be particularly outraged about what did or did not happen here and whether it could have realistically been prevented.

    Give it a few weeks for more information to come out about who was really behind this (if other than what we now see) and what the motivates were. Just like reporting on the news before you have the facts leads one astray; so does jumping to conclusions about a small set of facts when there is so much that we do not know.

    This issue could be far more (or less) complex than we currently think it is. Its hard to have an intelligent discussion now.
    There is much that we do know. These Jihadists did not act alone and they had technical and "moral" support from many; far, far more than the seven mentioned as "known" suspected accomplices. When their pictures were finally circulated, almost 80 hours after the bombing, it took less than a day to "get them" using only 9,000 LEOs. Using the idea that "good muslims" had no idea that these radicals were in their midst is the falacy that must be faced, as their uncle interviewed surely had no doubts that they were up to no good. While the vast majority of "good muslims" do not participate directly in the terror campaign they do little (if anything) to report or stop it, yet express shock that they are later "discriminated" against in the aftermath. This, like any street gang activity, will never be stopped by waiting until mass casualties exist before any action is taken. The law makes it a very serious offense to aid and abet criminals (Jihadists or street gang members), yet is often not used out of "respect" for family and friends. Where did the funding for these "good brothers" efforts come from? International travel is not cheap and must have been paid for by someone.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: FBI Hunts Terror 'Sleeper Cell' Linked to Tsarnaev Brothers

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    Boston Marathon Bombings: FBI Hunts Terror 'Sleeper Cell' Linked to Tsarnaev Brothers - IBTimes UK

    our worst nitemare

    the fbi originally denied contacting the bomber

    dzhokhar was shot thru the throat, perhaps self inflicted

    the three arrested in new bedford were two young men and a woman from kazakhstan

    the plates on her bmw read terrorista

    the brothers tsarnaev were here as refugees, granted political asylum

    the younger became an american citizen on, of all dates, 9-11-2009

    obama urges deliberation

    Obama Warns "Not To Rush To Judgement" About "Motivations" And "Groups" | RealClearPolitics

    on the other side, the locals play political polyanna

    Boston mayor says brothers acted alone - POLITICO.com

    pray for the victims and the loved ones
    Our worst nightmare is right.

    Boston proved a training ground for what not to do for these nutjobs. I'm afraid we're in for a long summer.
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    Re: FBI Hunts Terror 'Sleeper Cell' Linked to Tsarnaev Brothers

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    This is literally the exact opposite of everything that's reported elsewhere. Thus far, authorities have said that they believe the brothers were acting alone - not as part of a terrorist cell. Also, I think the three people who were taken into custody cited by the article were released. I think they were friends of the younger one who were taken in for questioning and found to be innocent of any potential involvement.

    I think people need to calm down and wait for actual information. Thus far, much more of the media than I would think has been rather tempered in drawing conclusions about motives and "sleeper cells" and the extent Islam was involved in the attacks. That's a good thing.
    Honestly, I would not be surprised if we weren't getting the straight scoop. The last thing our economy needs is fear based on terrorist attacks. To think we're privy to the down-and-dirty-skinny is probably wishful.
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    Re: FBI Hunts Terror 'Sleeper Cell' Linked to Tsarnaev Brothers

    Give it a few weeks
    the only person (so far) in this thread rushing to judgement is thomas menino...

    unless you have a problem with the fbi

    let's add another

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    Re: FBI Hunts Terror 'Sleeper Cell' Linked to Tsarnaev Brothers

    you obviously didn't see the sunday talk shows, you were probably too busy talking

    y'know, sharing your knowledge

    rushing to judgement (mtp):

    There are a couple of things to remember, David, I think for all of us. With the death of Osama Bin Laden, Islamic rage did not go away. In fact, in some ways it's more dangerous. This is a perfect example. You can't get intel on the lone operator. There’s a lot we still need to know about what motivated him, obviously. He’s a Chechen, but their beef is with Russia not with us. But, he’s also a Muslim. And the fact is that Islamic rage is still out there. We saw it in Times Square. We were very, very fortunate under those circumstances. So there has to be more vigilance, obviously.
    Brokaw: "Islamic Rage Did Not Go Away; In Some Ways It's More Dangerous" | RealClearPolitics

    note to mr brokaw---blowing legs off the bodies of two dozen americans at the finish line of the boston marathon doesn't really make much of a statement about or do much harm to or have much of even the most remote connection to, umm, vladimir putin

    i mean, on the surface of things...

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    Re: FBI Hunts Terror 'Sleeper Cell' Linked to Tsarnaev Brothers

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    Boston Marathon Bombings: FBI Hunts Terror 'Sleeper Cell' Linked to Tsarnaev Brothers - IBTimes UK

    our worst nitemare

    the fbi originally denied contacting the bomber

    dzhokhar was shot thru the throat, perhaps self inflicted

    the three arrested in new bedford were two young men and a woman from kazakhstan

    the plates on her bmw read terrorista

    the brothers tsarnaev were here as refugees, granted political asylum

    the younger became an american citizen on, of all dates, 9-11-2009

    obama urges deliberation

    Obama Warns "Not To Rush To Judgement" About "Motivations" And "Groups" | RealClearPolitics

    on the other side, the locals play political polyanna

    Boston mayor says brothers acted alone - POLITICO.com

    pray for the victims and the loved ones
    Our worst nightmare is a handful of folk who can kill up to what 3-5 people/event? You have some rather calm nightmares.
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