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Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

sangha said:
No, wanting to ban abortion is about control.

Supporting the right to have an abortion is about rights.
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Yes, I know you're of the ideology that believes that some humans are property and the "owners" should have the right to do whatever they want with them. I think many people in American history would agree with you there.
 
Josie said:
It depends on what "freedom" you're talking about. I'm a lover of the freedom to own a firearm. I'm very much not a lover of the freedom to kill your unborn child. Abortion isn't about freedom - it's about control.
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Both are choices in life: a choice whether to buy a gun or not, and a choice whether to have a baby or not.
 
nota bene said:
You're very young, and I realize that you're trying to be clever, but your cynicism is pretty cheap. :3oops:
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Yeah still very young in 10th grade still luckily I got adopted just a couple of months ago

Cynicism? I do care somewhat about the human race just in a different way :2razz:
 
sangha said:
Another lie
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Not at all. Every time there's an abortion debate, the pro-choices constantly bring up medically-necessary abortions as if they're the rule instead of the exception.
 
X Factor said:
Why
not? What's the difference between this and abortions you do support?
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He was killing born babies. I don't personally support abortion for most reasons, but I personally make exceptions for life, health, health fears, rape, and abusive situations such as domestic violence. I think women having an abortion to prevent her abuser from having rights and access to her can save her life.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Sometimes it is all a matter of perspective

A soldier can ethier be veiwed as a war hero or murderer depending on the perspective of those involved.
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Gosnell was no soldier; he was a butcher who killed babies.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Both are choices in life: a choice whether to buy a gun or not, and a choice whether to have a baby or not.
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Nah, you're twisting it. Abortion isn't about choosing whether you want to have a baby someday or not. It's about choosing to kill the baby that's already in the womb.
 
Josie said:
Yes, I know you're of the ideology that believes that some humans are property and the "owners" should have the right to do whatever they want with them. I think many people in American history would agree with you there.
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And I think the moral fascists who want to ban abortion believe that women are property and the liars who want to ban abortion have the right to do whatever they want with them
 
SheWolf said:
He was killing born babies. I don't personally support abortion for most reasons, but I personally make exceptions for life, health, health fears, rape, and abusive situations such as domestic violence. I think women having an abortion to prevent her abuser from having rights and access to her can save her life.
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"I'm going to kill you to save you." Yeah, that makes sense. :roll:
 
Josie said:
Not at all. Every time there's an abortion debate, the pro-choices constantly bring up medically-necessary abortions as if they're the rule instead of the exception.
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Another lie

The truth is, the abortion banners talk about abortion as if every one was a late term abortion
 
Josie said:
1. Yes, I know you're of the ideology that believes that some humans are property and the "owners" should have the right to do whatever they want with them.
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1. Yeah the owners can own humans as property as long as they're in a body sucking resources out of them anything can be done to them at the women's own choice. Sorry that's how life rolls and the unborn can easily be replaced so no worries
 
sangha said:
And I think the moral fascists who want to ban abortion believe that women are property and the liars who want to ban abortion have the right to do whatever they want with them
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Actually banning abortion has very little to do with the women and very much to do with the human inside of them.
 
SheWolf said:
He was killing born babies. I don't personally support abortion for most reasons, but I personally make exceptions for life, health, health fears, rape, and abusive situations such as domestic violence. I think women having an abortion to prevent her abuser from having rights and access to her can save her life.
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They were only born because he induced them. What's the difference between the baby that he took out then killed or allowed to die and a baby of the same age still in the womb?
 
Josie said:
Actually banning abortion has very little to do with the women and very much to do with the human inside of them.
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Abortion banners don't care about the born, except to control them and treat them as property
 
X Factor said:
They were only born because he induced them. What's the difference between the baby that he took out then killed or allowed to die and a baby of the same age still in the womb?
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The former were born. The latter were not

Duh
 
sangha said:
Another lie

The truth is, the abortion banners talk about abortion as if every one was a late term abortion
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I know it's confusing when someone speaks about a human life as if he is always a human life no matter what stage of growth he is in. Biology is hard.
 
nota bene said:
You're very young, and I realize that you're trying to be clever, but your cynicism is pretty cheap. :3oops:
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Many of them grew up thinking Kermit was the friend of children, not their killer.
 
Josie said:
Nah, you're twisting it. Abortion isn't about choosing whether you want to have a baby someday or not. It's about choosing to kill the baby that's already in the womb.
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Is it not the choice of the mother who has said baby in her womb to go to a abortion docter and to have a abortion? The docter is not forcing her to have one he is just providing a medical procedure. the government is not forcing women to have abortions. It is the women's choice to have a baby or not.

The only ones forcing anything are those who are forcing people to not have abortions.
 
Josie said:
I know it's confusing when someone speaks about a human life as if he is always a human life no matter what stage of growth he is in. Biology is hard.
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There's nothing confusing about the lies the abortion banners tell. They are transparent.
 
sangha said:
The former were born. The latter were not

Duh
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What difference does that make? How is one a human being but the other isn't? You yourself can't bring yourself to call him a murderer, so why feign any indignance at Gosnell's actions?
 
sangha said:
The former were born. The latter were not

Duh
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C'mon X. It's the location that actually makes the baby a baby. Derp.

Again....biology is hard.
 
X Factor said:
What difference does that make? How is one a human being but the other isn't? You yourself can't bring yourself to call him a murderer, so why feign any indignance at Gosnell's actions?
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Read the constitution!

A ZEF is not protected. Abortion is not murder. That's just one of the many lies the abortion banners tell
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Is it not the choice of the mother who has said baby in her womb to go to a abortion docter and to have a abortion? The docter is not forcing her to have one he is just providing a medical procedure. the government is not forcing women to have abortions. It is the women's choice to have a baby or not.

The only ones forcing anything are those who are forcing people to not have abortions.
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I'm forcing you to NOT kill your unborn child. LOL! Wow...how evil of us.
 
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