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Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

nota bene said:
That's a very, very good question.

I hope I'm wrong, but if you're hoping for a wake up call, I don't see that happening. I think you're going to see even more elaborate rationalizations--the unborn aren't "persons," Gosnell is the exception that proves the rule, etc.
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He isn't an execption to the rules. Where are you guys coming up with this stuff? I haven't personally seen anybody say such things here.
 
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Northern Light said:
If true, the witness' claims are pretty horrifying, but I find them really hard to believe. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction, but saying that babies were trying to escape from being flushed and they were clogging the pipes could so very easily be an outrageous lie to stoke the cause.

It's hard to know for sure because when it comes to abortion, both sides of the issue are capable of great dishonesty in order to achieve their agendas.
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Why don't you read the grand jury's report then?

http://www.phila.gov/districtattorney/pdfs/grandjurywomensmedical.pdf
 
Josie said:
How about someone actually INSPECTING his clinic instead of letting him mutilate and murder babies and women for years?
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Translation: Josie can't answer Deuce's question and explain how an abortion law would have made this murderer not be a murderer
 
GEIxBattleRifle said:
That's fine by me because someone has to do the dirty work
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You're very young, and I realize that you're trying to be clever, but your cynicism is pretty cheap. :3oops:
 
Josie said:
Didn't Obama speak at Planned Parenthood yesterday? He was fawning all over them and vice versa.
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Agreed, but that's what's going on behind closed doors. We allow things things to happen because we are often too intimidated to do anything about it.

What could possibly be the excuse for not investigating the facilities, despite everyone knowing what was going on and the number of complaints, for 17 years?

Kermit Gosnell Clinic Not Inspected - Business Insider
 
sangha said:
Translation: Josie can't answer Deuce's question and explain how an abortion law would have made this murderer not be a murderer
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Do you think he's a murderer?
 
sangha said:
Translation: Josie can't answer Deuce's question and explain how an abortion law would have made this murderer not be a murderer
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You don't think inspections would've stopped this man from murdering babies?
 
SheWolf said:
Its not my shame. I did nothing wrong, and I don't approve of what happened in the least. .
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Why not? What's the difference between this and abortions you do support?
 
Josie said:
How about someone actually INSPECTING his clinic instead of letting him mutilate and murder babies and women for years?
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When I support stricter background checks they tell me I hate freedom. Do you hate freedom?

Josie said:
You don't think inspections would've stopped this man from murdering babies?
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I do think more inspections would have caught him sooner, yes. (well, possibly) Welcome to the Democratic Party.
 
Josie said:
Not all firearm owners kill life with their firearm.
All abortion doctors kill life.
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I am sure that the supreme court considered medically necessary abortions when they made their decision, which is something lifers rarely acknowledge.
 
Northern Light said:
If true, the witness' claims are pretty horrifying, but I find them really hard to believe. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction, but saying that babies were trying to escape from being flushed and they were clogging the pipes could so very easily be an outrageous lie to stoke the cause.

It's hard to know for sure because when it comes to abortion, both sides of the issue are capable of great dishonesty in order to achieve their agendas.
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This is not about abortion, it is about murder. Gosnell has been charged with murder.

Still, pro -abortionists continue to defend the guy. They can't seem to see how one of their own could behave badly towards women and babies, despite all the evidence..
 
Deuce said:
When I support stricter background checks they tell me I hate freedom. Do you hate freedom?
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It depends on what "freedom" you're talking about. I'm a lover of the freedom to own a firearm. I'm very much not a lover of the freedom to kill your unborn child. Abortion isn't about freedom - it's about control.
 
Josie said:
It depends on what "freedom" you're talking about. I'm a lover of the freedom to own a firearm. I'm very much not a lover of the freedom to kill your unborn child. Abortion isn't about freedom - it's about control.
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No, wanting to ban abortion is about control.

Supporting the right to have an abortion is about rights.
 
SheWolf said:
I am sure that the supreme court considered medically necessary abortions when they made their decision, which is something lifers rarely acknowledge.
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Medically necessary abortions are a very small percentage in the total number of abortions in this country - a fact pro-choicers rarely acknowledge.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Sometimes it is all a matter of perspective

A soldier can ethier be veiwed as a war hero or murderer depending on the perspective of those involved.
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And what's your perspective?
 
Grant said:
This is not about abortion, it is about murder. Gosnell has been charged with murder.

Still, pro -abortionists continue to defend the guy. They can't seem to see how one of their own could behave badly towards women and babies, despite all the evidence..
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You seem to be trying to make gosnell a example of all abortion docters because by your defenition abortion is murder.

Remember what some pro-lifers called dr.george tiller, the murdered abortion docter?
 
sangha said:
Try and keep up
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Did you answer my question and I missed it? You can't can you. You can't condemn Gosnell without condemning your own position.
 
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