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Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

Read the constitution!

A ZEF is not protected. Abortion is not murder. That's just one of the many lies the abortion banners tell

Yes, because based on history, we should always trust the laws to tell us who is human and who isn't.
 
Read the constitution!

A ZEF is not protected. Abortion is not murder. That's just one of the many lies the abortion banners tell

What is Gosnell on trial for?
 
Yes, because based on history, we should always trust the laws to tell us who is human and who isn't.

The abortion banners don't care about life or humans. They just want to control and punish women
 
You want to force woman to have children. Women are not your property. You can't force them to have children

I'm not forcing anyone to have a kid. Ninety-nine percent of the time, women make the CHOICE to participate in the act that might impregnate them.
 
The abortion banners don't care about life or humans. They just want to control and punish women

Lol, ok. We win if you can't actually defend the substance of your position.
 
I'm not forcing anyone to have a kid. Ninety-nine percent of the time, women make the CHOICE to participate in the act that might impregnate them.

Another lie. Abortion banners want to force women to have children
 
You seem to be trying to make gosnell a example of all abortion docters because by your defenition abortion is murder.

It is not my definition. Gosnell murdered enough babies that he has been charged with three counts of murder. It is suspected that he may be the worst serial killer in American history. He is not being charged with performing an abortion.

Remember what some pro-lifers called dr.george tiller, the murdered abortion docter?

Yeah, Tiller the baby killer. It seems Gosnell falls into the same category, and who knows how many more are out there?
 
It is not my definition. Gosnell murdered enough babies that he has been charged with three counts of murder. It is suspected that he may be the worst serial killer in American history. He is not being charged with performing an abortion.

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Yeah, Tiller the baby killer. It seems Gosnell falls into the same category, and who knows how many more are out there?

Dr. Tiller was not a murderer. He was a abortion docter who earned that monicker by people who hated him for providing abortions
 
Not at all.
Every time there's an abortion debate, the pro-choices constantly bring up medically-necessary abortions as if they're the rule instead of the exception.

Its an important distinction to make. Its not unfair to bring it up. When lifers are always attacking abortion rights, it would probably help them to make the distinction. Be reasonable about keeping women safe. Look like you care about real medical needs, and don't just spout off like all abortion is is modern day slavery, a holocaust, and eugenics.



I think a lot of you sound uniformed when you start spouting off like that. And I know many if you are uninformed.

Yeah, abortion does kill a human life in most circumstances. But just because it ends a human life, can't be the single and cental argument as to why it should be illegal. Its not practical because if the heath factors.

But a lot of lifers and religious organizations don't make the distinction. Women who's lives are in danger have been pressured by religious leaders and other lifers to not abort, to wait it out etc.

I think there is an important conversation to be had there.
 
Dr. Tiller was not a murderer. He was a abortion docter who earned that monicker by people who hated him for providing abortions

Let's pretend that abortion was illegal when Dr. Tiller was alive and working. Would you call him a murderer then?
 
Yes, because based on history, we should always trust the laws to tell us who is human and who isn't.

And we should always depend on the predictable tactics--those who are pro-life hate and want to control women, don't care about babies after they're born, and blah-blah-blah.

Topic is Gosnell and his murders of babies and women. As has already been asked, what's Gosnell on trial for?

What's really becoming sad in this thread is the ideologues who are attacking those who are pro-life. I don't think there are any decent folks who are pro-choice who are doing any other than condemning Gosnell.

And some of them, just maybe, are going to be paying a little better attention to abortion practices and considering more deeply this great American discussion on the value of human life because of this.

Shame that ideologues have interject their boilerplate and diversionary rants.
 
Let's pretend that abortion was illegal when Dr. Tiller was alive and working. Would you call him a murderer then?

Let's wonder how many "snippings" Dr. Tiller performed.
 
"I'm going
to kill you to save you." Yeah, that makes sense. :roll:

I was talking about protecting the lives and safety of women. Your comment makes no sense to me.
 
I was talking about protecting the lives and safety of women. Your comment makes no sense to me.

You were talking about having an abortion so that the abuser wouldn't have parental rights to the child.
 
Let's pretend that abortion was illegal when Dr. Tiller was alive and working. Would you call him a murderer then?

Don't bring up such what if scenarios, especially sense no one can bring back the dead.

Dr. Tiller was licensed to provide abortion services including late term abortions, which is why he earned the monicker baby killer.

Dr. Tiller was not a murderer.
 
Don't bring up such what if scenarios, especially sense no one can bring back the dead.

Dr. Tiller was licensed to provide abortion services including late term abortions, which is why he earned the monicker baby killer.

Dr. Tiller was not a murderer.

That's what I thought. Even if abortion was illegal, you still wouldn't call an abortion doctor a murderer. So it's really not about the law at all, it's about your opinion.
 
Actually banning abortion has very little to do with the women and very much to do with the human inside of them.

It actually has to do with both.
 
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