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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Being that the forum has rules about what media sourcing can be used to start a thread, I am posting this here since the thread is already well underway, but this is good news...
    But would this law make any real difference? Laws were already in place and ignored during Gosnell's years as an abortionist, people deliberately turned the other way when told about it, and he already has his defenders. It seems that there are more people determined that abortions take place, at ever later periods, then ever existed when R vs W came into play. We now know that "safe, legal and rare" was just political sloganeering.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But would this law make any real difference? Laws were already in place and ignored during Gosnell's years as an abortionist, people deliberately turned the other way when told about it, and he already has his defenders. It seems that there are more people determined that abortions take place, at ever later periods, then ever existed when R vs W came into play. We now know that "safe, legal and rare" was just political sloganeering.

    Nurse Tells of Babies Left to Die After Failed Abortions | LifeNews.com
    Yeah, you're probably right, but just to enter it in the record is something....
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Could have been, I didn't see it. What I do know is that Singer has stated publicly that he doesn't see any difference between aborting a baby in the womb at say 28 weeks, and killing a born child up to 6 months old....That is reprehensible.
    that's the thing, they interviewed singer in the film, but never touched on his more controversial views. Naturally, they lined up every nutter on the other side and gave the free reign

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    that's the thing, they interviewed singer in the film, but never touched on his more controversial views. Naturally, they lined up every nutter on the other side and gave the free reign
    So are you saying that Singer doesn't get a fair shake? Or that he meant something other than killing a 6 month old baby was ok, when he said abortion should be extended to 6 months after birth? Please try and justify that if you can.
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So are you saying that Singer doesn't get a fair shake? Or that he meant something other than killing a 6 month old baby was ok, when he said abortion should be extended to 6 months after birth? Please try and justify that if you can.
    No, I am saying they do well in documenting some of the more risky elements of the pro-life movement, but just ignore those elements on the pro-abortion side.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    No, I am saying they do well in documenting some of the more risky elements of the pro-life movement, but just ignore those elements on the pro-abortion side.
    OH, ok, sorry. I misread. I get it now....
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Ok, thanks for explaining. I would just point out that a baby at 26 weeks would still need life some support measures. I know because my friend was in danger of an early delivery and I've actually taken her to some of her appointments.
    I was born preemie (27 weeks I think) and I was in the hospital for about two weeks. I don't think I needed much more than an IV and some phototherapy for jaundice.
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That is a lie. No one has explained when the "moment of conception" occurs. Only how the process of conception takes place
    Right, then, so at what point is the baby a "person" during birth? Can you point to the exact moment of birth at which this occurs?
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Right, then, so at what point is the baby a "person" during birth? Can you point to the exact moment of birth at which this occurs?
    IMO, a fetus becomes a baby when it is viable outside the mother's womb -- even with medical assistance as some preemies often need.
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    IMO, a fetus becomes a baby when it is viable outside the mother's womb -- even with medical assistance as some preemies often need.
    I'm talking about birth itself. Sangha believes that a ZEF/baby isn't a person until it is born, but he also believes that life can't begin at contraception because it is a process rather than a moment. Birth is also a process.
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