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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    I'm baffled that people want to nitpick and debate "breathing" and "swimming" and whatnot. The fact is that live babies were thrown in toilets, that act is simply disgusting and frankly it shouldn't matter if the baby was swimming, breathing, screaming, or anything else.
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How's
    that? Although the article doesn't detail the exact paper trail of evidence that the attorney had through subpoena, it's pretty clear that it was damning toward a collusion between PP, and Tiller to break the law, and the Judge ordered him to turn it over to the AG Morrison, probably for review, and possible prosecution through the state. At that time, Kline argued further to the judge, and the judge said he could ask for it back...Morrison the AG refused. Remember this was a Sebelius lacky, and Tiller was supported by the corrupt Sebelius.



    George Tiller was on trial for 19 counts of breaking Kansas law, preforming abortions after 22 weeks with no medical reason for such....A grand jury indicted him....This is a fact. But interesting that you now will only acknowledge that the women were referred to him, not that they received the abortions...What else did Tiller's clinic do? It is absurd to debate in this fashion...If you are not going to accept that the only reason to walk through those doors was to obtain an abortion, in cases up to the 32nd week or beyond, with no medical reason other than some contrived one probably made up on the spot by the staff for paper work reasons.

    This parallels Gosnell as well, concerning the referrals from what I understand....Now getting liars to admit it under oath is the trick. In Gosnell's case he won't go near the stand....Wonder why?



    Then restrict it to hospitals to perform, because we see how criminal abortionists will abuse the law.
    He was found innocent if all charges right before he was murdered. It was socially irresponsible if Bill O'Reilly to call him a murder and Tiller the Baby Killer in the face of all the violence that clinic saw, and the previous attempts made in Tiller's life.





    Gohsin is no better.

    If he were found guilty of such a crime or illegally aborting late term fetuses that would be.different.



    Many pro lifers need to learn how to tone their anger and hate down...

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'm baffled that people want to nitpick and debate "breathing" and "swimming" and whatnot. The fact is that live babies were thrown in toilets, that act is simply disgusting and frankly it shouldn't matter if the baby was swimming, breathing, screaming, or anything else.
    yeah, it's a totally absurd point to focus on, given the circumstances

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    He was found innocent if all charges right before he was murdered. It was socially irresponsible if Bill O'Reilly to call him a murder and Tiller the Baby Killer in the face of all the violence that clinic saw, and the previous attempts made in Tiller's life.





    Gohsin is no better.

    If he were found guilty of such a crime or illegally aborting late term fetuses that would be.different.



    Many pro lifers need to learn how to tone their anger and hate down...
    The trial was rigged. You need to read this...

    On Friday afternoon, March 27, it took a Wichita jury just 45 minutes to acquit Dr. George Tiller of 19 misdemeanor charges relating to his prolific late-term abortion business.Tiller needed help. And for those paying attention, the real help came not in the courtroom but in the proverbial back room where, some three years earlier, Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius engineered the deal that would keep Tiller’s practice alive.

    Sebelius persuaded Paul Morrison, the popular Republican district attorney of the state’s most affluent county, to switch parties and run against sitting Attorney General Phill Kline.
    Kline had proved deadly serious in bringing Tiller to justice, a move that had the potential to throw a major wrench in the Democratic fundraising apparatus.
    With Tiller’s massive financial support behind him, Morrison ousted Kline. Before leaving office, however, Kline had filed 30 counts against Tiller for performing illegal late-term abortions.
    In other words, Tiller stood accused of taking the life of 15 fully viable unborn babies whose mothers were equally healthy, in utter disregard of Kansas law.
    While Morrison was reviewing these charges, Sebelius honored Tiller and his staff at an elegant but extremely discreet soiree at Cedar Crest, the governor’s mansion.
    Among the more revealing of the photos taken at the event is one of Sebelius holding a T-Shirt presented to her by Tiller, which reads, “Trifecta 2006: Sebelius, Parkinson, Morrison.” In the photo, Sebelius points at Tiller as if to acknowledge his contribution to that victory.
    To no one’s great surprise, Morrison dropped the felony charges Kline had brought against Tiller. As Morrison interpreted the law, if a doctor said an abortion was necessary to protect the life and health of the mother, that was good enough for the AG.

    Read more at How Sebelius subverted the Tiller abortion trial
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The trial was rigged.


    There wasn't enough evidence.

    A lot of lifers.are way too emotionally invested in this issue and see it as black and white, so I am not surprised you would find some other reason to consider him a mass murderer in your eyes. But in reality, your side lacked sufficient evidence.


    You're accusing him of anoher crime in the process as well. Rigging a trial, paying of a jury, tampering with evidence, and committing fraud steal serious allegations to make against somebody ontop of calling them a murderer.

    This is why I have a hard time taking the pro life.position seriously
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    My keyboard is a little messed up, so I am making lots of typos

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    There wasn't enough evidence.

    A lot of lifers.are way too emotionally invested in this issue and see it as black and white, so I am not surprised you would find some other reason to consider him a mass murderer in your eyes. But in reality, your side lacked sufficient evidence.


    You're accusing him of anoher crime in the process as well. Rigging a trial, paying of a jury, tampering with evidence, and committing fraud steal serious allegations to make against somebody ontop of calling them a murderer.

    This is why I have a hard time taking the pro life.position seriously
    So am I to assume you are pro death?

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    There wasn't enough evidence.
    Funny how that happens when the person bringing the charges is unseated right before the trial for an AG that is sympathetic to your cause isn't it?

    "As Morrison interpreted the law, if a doctor said an abortion was necessary to protect the life and health of the mother, that was good enough for the AG."

    Read more at How Sebelius subverted the Tiller abortion trial

    A lot of lifers.are way too emotionally invested in this issue and see it as black and white, so I am not surprised you would find some other reason to consider him a mass murderer in your eyes.
    A lot of late term abortion advocates are way too emotionally invested in this issue, and try to use a thousand shades of grey, and projection to cloud the issue, so I am not surprised you would some inane technicality, while ignoring what happened leading to that verdict to let him off, and ignore that he was guilty of infanticide.

    You're accusing him of anoher crime in the process as well. Rigging a trial, paying of a jury, tampering with evidence, and committing fraud steal serious allegations to make against somebody ontop of calling them a murderer.
    No, I am accusing Sebelius, and her lackey Morrison of this, Tiller is just the beneficiary.

    This is why I have a hard time taking the pro life.position seriously
    No, you don't take it seriously because you have rationalized the murder of a defenseless child as proper...I feel sorry for you.
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    So am I to assume you are pro death?
    And I assume you hate women and want to see their slutty corpses on the end of a hanger

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    And I assume you hate women and want to see their slutty corpses on the end of a hanger
    Emotional nonsense...Abortion would become a states issue where it should be, and the states now that make up the majority of abortions in this country would likely not see any change at all. Those that do restrict the practice will always have it available in hospitals for health of the mother issues.
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