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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    I call bovine excrement on this. Babies can't swim and wouldn't even know to get out of the water.
    Why don't you go to YouTube and view the 9-month old twins swimming on their backs?

    Babies are born with both a "swimming" and a "diving reflex." You can Google this.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    I call bovine excrement on this. Babies can't swim and wouldn't even know to get out of the water.
    It's not like the baby was trying to beat Michael Phelps' record. Every human who has lungs has a reflex to kick themselves out of water so they can breathe.


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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    A fetus has been "breathing" amniotic fluid inside the womb right up to when it hits the air. The emotive description of reflexive action such as "trying to get out" implies that it was not only aware of it's surroundings but understood the concept of in/out, which is patently false.
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    A fetus has been "breathing" amniotic fluid inside the womb right up to when it hits the air. The emotive description of reflexive action such as "trying to get out" implies that it was not only aware of it's surroundings but understood the concept of in/out, which is patently false.
    well, it's the accounting of an eye witness and I doubt anyone is taking t to mean that there was some internal dialogue going on within the child. But others have said, it just seems a rather bizarre point to argue against here, Being that if the child was just instinctively responding to something, or developing a rational plan of action to escape the confines of the water, it paints a rather horrific picture of an already horrific incident

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Possibly
    you missed this part of the articles I posted....Or didn't bother to even read them....

    "In testimony perhaps even less to Monnatís liking, Kline revealed that in April, 2006, he had gone to Shawnee County District Court Judge Richard Anderson because he had reason to believe that abortion records that he received through subpoena as Attorney General contained evidence of a conspiracy between Tiller and Planned Parenthood to violate the Kansas late-term abortion law. Nevertheless, Kline was ordered to return the Tiller records to then Attorney General Morrison.

    Kline said that he found that Planned Parenthood had referred three women to Tiller for late-term abortions even though the women were over legal threshold of 22 weeks gestation, and that the women did not meet any of the exceptions to the Kansas ban on late-abortions since they had no physical or mental health problems. Judge Anderson later advised Kline to ask Morrison for the three records in question. Kline made the request, but Morrison refused it."

    So Morrison refused to turn over evidence, strange isn't it that it is the same thing you ask for now eh? Now why would a defender of Tiller refuse to turn over evidence like that? So that there remains deniability?

    So tell me SheWolf, are you in favor of aborting babies late term?
    I don't understand the evidence. If there were evidence then why didn't he get in trouble?

    And even this testimony doesn't say he broke any law. It just said some women were referred to him, and they shouldn't have been. It.doesnt say they received abortions.




    And I don't like late term abortion, but I know it needs to be legal to protect the lives and safety of women.
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Why
    don't you go to YouTube and view the 9-month old twins swimming on their backs?

    Babies are born with both a "swimming" and a "diving reflex." You can Google this.
    There is not that much water in a toilet.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I don't understand the evidence.
    How's that? Although the article doesn't detail the exact paper trail of evidence that the attorney had through subpoena, it's pretty clear that it was damning toward a collusion between PP, and Tiller to break the law, and the Judge ordered him to turn it over to the AG Morrison, probably for review, and possible prosecution through the state. At that time, Kline argued further to the judge, and the judge said he could ask for it back...Morrison the AG refused. Remember this was a Sebelius lacky, and Tiller was supported by the corrupt Sebelius.

    And even this testimony doesn't say he broke any law. It just said some women were referred to him, and they shouldn't have been. It.doesnt say they received abortions.
    George Tiller was on trial for 19 counts of breaking Kansas law, preforming abortions after 22 weeks with no medical reason for such....A grand jury indicted him....This is a fact. But interesting that you now will only acknowledge that the women were referred to him, not that they received the abortions...What else did Tiller's clinic do? It is absurd to debate in this fashion...If you are not going to accept that the only reason to walk through those doors was to obtain an abortion, in cases up to the 32nd week or beyond, with no medical reason other than some contrived one probably made up on the spot by the staff for paper work reasons.

    This parallels Gosnell as well, concerning the referrals from what I understand....Now getting liars to admit it under oath is the trick. In Gosnell's case he won't go near the stand....Wonder why?

    And I don't like late term abortion, but I know it needs to be legal to protect the lives and safety of women.
    Then restrict it to hospitals to perform, because we see how criminal abortionists will abuse the law.
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    ... I think you've wildly misinterpreted how statistics work.
    Really...two living entities go into an abortion 'clinic'...one living entity exits...death rate = 50%...almost all abortion attempts end in death...look it up..

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How's that? Although the article doesn't detail the exact paper trail of evidence that the attorney had through subpoena, it's pretty clear that it was damning toward a collusion between PP, and Tiller to break the law, and the Judge ordered him to turn it over to the AG Morrison, probably for review, and possible prosecution through the state. At that time, Kline argued further to the judge, and the judge said he could ask for it back...Morrison the AG refused. Remember this was a Sebelius lacky, and Tiller was supported by the corrupt Sebelius.



    George Tiller was on trial for 19 counts of breaking Kansas law, preforming abortions after 22 weeks with no medical reason for such....A grand jury indicted him....This is a fact. But interesting that you now will only acknowledge that the women were referred to him, not that they received the abortions...What else did Tiller's clinic do? It is absurd to debate in this fashion...If you are not going to accept that the only reason to walk through those doors was to obtain an abortion, in cases up to the 32nd week or beyond, with no medical reason other than some contrived one probably made up on the spot by the staff for paper work reasons.

    This parallels Gosnell as well, concerning the referrals from what I understand....Now getting liars to admit it under oath is the trick. In Gosnell's case he won't go near the stand....Wonder why?



    Then restrict it to hospitals to perform, because we see how criminal abortionists will abuse the law.
    Here is the psychiatrist who was asked by the A/G to investigate Tiller's records. Dr. Tiller's Abortion Records Exposed - YouTube

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    This isn't a point of order; it's an irrelevancy.
    All right. If so, then it's precisely equal in irrelevancy to its equal and opposite....to which my post was a direct response.

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