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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Testimony does not make fact. In this case I cannot even imagine the testimony being possible.
    Testimony under oath is considered fact until proven otherwise. It is testimony that puts many criminals away is it not?
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Well, it's not exactly a study we can do is it? What normal person wants to do a study on if a baby can swim right after birth? THE BABY SHOULDN'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT DOING THAT.
    Actually we do know you do have to learn to swim and newborns do not have the muscle development or coordination to swim. We also know that you can plug a toilet with a turd so you would never get a conscious baby to flush into the pipes. It sounds like something a first grader would come up with as a lie.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Testimony under oath is considered fact until proven otherwise. It is testimony that puts many criminals away is it not?
    No, it is not considered fact.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Testimony under oath is considered fact until proven otherwise. It is testimony that puts many criminals away is it not?
    It can put people away, but in a case where there is such a fevered level of emotion driving it, I doubt embellishing or lying is too far fetched to believe.
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Actually we do know you do have to learn to swim and newborns do not have the muscle development or coordination to swim. We also know that you can plug a toilet with a turd so you would never get a conscious baby to flush into the pipes. It sounds like something a first grader would come up with as a lie.
    Can you cite the study that shows where scientists have submerged babys in water to see if they attempt to flail their arms? You know, kind of like in the liquid environment they just left in their mothers stomach? Also, haven't you ever seen a preemie? You could definitely get a very small baby to at least get down the toilet.
    If you don't mind, I'd like to stop debating the last issue. Not really something I care to rehash over and over. I'll debate the rest with you all day long. Just not that.
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    It can put people away, but in a case where there is such a fevered level of emotion driving it, I doubt embellishing or lying is too far fetched to believe.
    I gotcha. However, it is a lawyer's job to disprove the testimony. So far, it hasn't been disproved. Until then, we have nothing left to go on.
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    No, it is not considered fact.
    In the law, testimony is a form of evidence that is obtained from a witness who makes a solemn statement or declaration of fact
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    can you please somehow bring Ronald McDonald into you thread, too?
    Well, Mr. McDonald is responsible for a lot of diabeetus...
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I gotcha. However, it is a lawyer's job to disprove the testimony. So far, it hasn't been disproved. Until then, we have nothing left to go on.
    Well I don't intend to read the story because I don't like that whole "lets gross everyone out to get our way" thingy which anti-abortion nuts often tend to do... as I witnessed in Phoenix when a box truck would drive around in rush hour traffic with bloody body parts of an abortion pictured all over the sides and back with anti-abortion slogans all over it.

    Plus I just don't even like watching vids of skateboarders breaking legs or that college basketball player that broke his bone or Joe Theisman or any of that stuff. Just don't like it. Not a Roman blood sport kind of guy.

    That being said, I don't know the size of the baby that is being talked about but the opening of the toilet drain will be 3" diameter. A woman's cervix BEFORE a baby passes through is 10cm or around 4". That's before the baby passes. So flushing a baby that is most likely going to be well over 4" down a 3" pipe...

    If the baby was smaller than that, it'd have to be much smaller and much more premature and I already doubt the muscle structure of a standard new born to try and swim much less the even more underdeveloped muscle structure of a preamy doing so.
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Well I don't intend to read the story because I don't like that whole "lets gross everyone out to get our way" thingy which anti-abortion nuts often tend to do... as I witnessed in Phoenix when a box truck would drive around in rush hour traffic with bloody body parts of an abortion pictured all over the sides and back with anti-abortion slogans all over it.

    Plus I just don't even like watching vids of skateboarders breaking legs or that college basketball player that broke his bone or Joe Theisman or any of that stuff. Just don't like it. Not a Roman blood sport kind of guy.

    That being said, I don't know the size of the baby that is being talked about but the opening of the toilet drain will be 3" diameter. A woman's cervix BEFORE a baby passes through is 10cm or around 4". That's before the baby passes. So flushing a baby that is most likely going to be well over 4" down a 3" pipe...

    If the baby was smaller than that, it'd have to be much smaller and much more premature and I already doubt the muscle structure of a standard new born to try and swim much less the even more underdeveloped muscle structure of a preamy doing so.
    You know something, I'm going to have to bow out of this debate. I seriously can't stomach it. Sorry man.
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