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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Apparently there is no way to explain it so that you are able understand it. I'll concede that I am simply unable to dumb it down enough for you.
    Sure there is. Just explain what takes place at the moment of conception.

    Is it when the sperm first makes contact with the egg? Is it when the sperm releases enzymes that help it penetrate the eggs surface? Is it when the sperm is fully within the egg? Is it when the electrical charge on the eggs surface changes making it impossible for other sperms to penetrate the eggs surface?

    What is the event that takes place at this mythical moment of conception?
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I feel sorry for anyone who can't figure out that a moment can occur anywhere between one point and another. Do we really have devolve this conversation into the usual idiocy?
    The feelings mutual

    But maybe someday you'll be able to describe what event takes place at this mythical "moment of conception"
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The feelings mutual

    But maybe someday you'll be able to describe what event takes place at this mythical "moment of conception"
    Can't explain to those who refuse to listen or understand. Those people are a lost cause and a waste of time.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I feel sorry for anyone who can't figure out that a moment can occur anywhere between one point and another. Do we really have devolve this conversation into the usual idiocy?
    Apparently so. How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Sure there is. Just explain what takes place at the moment of conception.

    Is it when the sperm first makes contact with the egg? Is it when the sperm releases enzymes that help it penetrate the eggs surface? Is it when the sperm is fully within the egg? Is it when the electrical charge on the eggs surface changes making it impossible for other sperms to penetrate the eggs surface?

    What is the event that takes place at this mythical moment of conception?
    The creation of a unique human individual.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Lol, this from the guy who hasn't been able or willing to answer one direct question.
    It seems to confuse him that the pro-life position is fairly obvious. Once there is a baby (call it a ZEF, whatever you like), you can't kill it.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Can't explain to those who refuse to listen or understand. Those people are a lost cause and a waste of time.
    He's trying to make a mountain out of a molehill that isn't even relevant. Obviously once you can pee on a stick and have the thing give you the "plus" sign (or whatever), fertilization has occurred.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Keith Moore: "A zygote [fertilized egg] is the beginning of a new human being. Human development begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete … unites with a female gamete or oocyte … to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marks the beginning of each of us as a unique individual."

    The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology (7th edition, Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2003)

    Keith Moore: "The zygote, formed by the union of an oocyte and a sperm, is the beginning of a new human being." Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology (7th edition, Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2008, p. 2)

    http://liveactionnews.org/life-begin...ience-teaches/

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Can't explain to those who refuse to listen or understand. Those people are a lost cause and a waste of time.
    Yes, there are people who refuse to understand that a moment is not "between 30 minutes and 5 days"
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    The creation of a unique human individual.
    A unique human individual is not created during the events that ChrisL posted. At the end of that process, there is no unique set of DNA composed of 24 chormosomes. That happens later.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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