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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    From what you just said, you would not support legal protection for a baby in the womb no matter how far along it is, am I right? I actually already know you won't answer the question but I thought I'd ask it anyway.
    I'll answer if you can explain exactly when this "moment of conception" BS occurs
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    Yes. I don't see how it's any worse than killing a newborn puppy, deer, etc. If you use the "Depriving it of a happy life" routine, I assure you that most animals experience a more fulfilling existence than human beings. I wasn't trying to make a point, just curious as to why this is any worse than late-term abortions?
    I think that's a completely fair question.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Seriously?
    Seriously. Welcome to the natural conclusion of the baby-grist mill that America has become. There is no discernible moral distinction between killing a child still in the womb or killing it 10 minutes later once it is out, so if the former is acceptable (and many believe that it is), then why wouldn't the latter? The child you are killing is no different.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I'll answer if you can explain exactly when this "moment of conception" BS occurs
    To play your same silly game, explain to me what you mean by birth. Is it when the baby is naturally born or does inducing birth early count? What if it's not completely out. What if the baby's crowning? Could a woman decide at the point she's changed her mind about the whole thing and tell the doc to go ahead and abort it?

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    To play your same silly game, explain to me what you mean by birth. Is it when the baby is naturally born or does inducing birth early count? What if it's not completely out. What if the baby's crowning? Could a woman decide at the point she's changed her mind about the whole thing and tell the doc to go ahead and abort it?
    I'm glad to see you arguing that birth is no less arbitrary than your own criteria for determining when a life is deserving of legal protection
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I would disagree. I don't think of MY son as replaceable at all. A baby can be replaced, but it is NOT the same person. Why would anyone even say such a thing?
    Because dehumanization and depersonalization is usually a necessary precondition to condoning, participating, or justifying mass-murder.

    What motivation would there be to say such things?
    Gotta protect that "womans' right to choose".... to kill her children.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Seriously. Welcome to the natural conclusion of the baby-grist mill that America has become. There is no discernible moral distinction between killing a child still in the womb or killing it 10 minutes later once it is out, so if the former is acceptable (and many believe that it is), then why wouldn't the latter? The child you are killing is no different.
    That's absolutely disgusting IMO. I could never even harm a baby in any way whatsoever. I can't imagine how or why people would want to even think about EVER doing such a horrible thing!

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I'm glad to see you arguing that birth is no less arbitrary than your own criteria for determining when a life is deserving of legal protection
    Naturally. There is no more particular reason to establish "Birth" as there is "the fifth birthday" or "12th week of gestation". All simply represent different stages of a child growing into an adult, and there is no moral distinction between the killing of a child in any of them.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's absolutely disgusting IMO. I could never even harm a baby in any way whatsoever. I can't imagine how or why people would want to even think about EVER doing such a horrible thing!
    You and me both. But there are quite a lot of people who disagree, quite a lot more who prefer to acquiesce to it through silence, and not a few who are quite in support of it. The President, for example. Hope you didn't vote for him.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    When no rational answer can be given, word games ensue.
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