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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It is not

    my definition. Gosnell murdered enough babies that he has been charged with three counts of murder. It is suspected that he may be the worst serial killer in American history. He is not being charged with performing an abortion.



    Yeah, Tiller the baby killer. It seems Gosnell falls into the same category, and who knows how many more are out there?
    This is murder and not abortion. Killing a viable infant outside the womb us murder.

    Do you not understand that legal early term abortion, and what this guy did us not the same?

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    How about someone actually INSPECTING his clinic instead of letting him mutilate and murder babies and women for years?
    Indeed. There are agencies charged with that duty who failed. So we don't need more regulation.
    I don't attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.
    This is the important stuff. We canít get lost in discrimination. We canít get lost in B.S. We canít get lost tearing each other down. I want to make a point here that no matter what you look like, where you come from, how you worship, who you love, how you identify, and yeah, how you run, that if you have good public policy ideas, if you are well qualified for office, bring those ideas to the table, because this is your America, too. This is our commonwealth of Virginia, too.
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    This is murder and not abortion. Killing a viable infant outside the womb us murder.

    Do you not understand that legal early term abortion, and what this guy did us not the same?
    What's the difference?

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Indeed. There are agencies charged with that duty who failed. So we don't need more regulation.
    Yes, this was a 17-years long systemic failure. Inexcusable.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Yes, this was a 17-years long systemic failure. Inexcusable.
    You get no argument from me.
    I don't attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.
    This is the important stuff. We canít get lost in discrimination. We canít get lost in B.S. We canít get lost tearing each other down. I want to make a point here that no matter what you look like, where you come from, how you worship, who you love, how you identify, and yeah, how you run, that if you have good public policy ideas, if you are well qualified for office, bring those ideas to the table, because this is your America, too. This is our commonwealth of Virginia, too.
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Let's
    pretend that abortion was illegal when Dr. Tiller was alive and working. Would you call him a murderer then?
    My understanding was his abortions were late term abortions performed on women and fetuses with health issues.

    I wouldn't call him a murderer.

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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Would you agree by that logic that the death penalty is just legalized murder?
    Well, sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Regardless the law is quite clear in saying that abortion is legal and is not murder.
    And if it was illegal, you would call abortion doctors murderers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    That is my definition of when a vim baby's life begins, when it is out of the womb and being nursed in its mothers arms.
    How does something grow if it isn't alive?


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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Indeed. There are agencies charged with that duty who failed. So we don't need more regulation.
    Yes, they failed. Do you agree with me that abortion clinics should have frequent, unplanned inspections to make sure we don't have more Gosnells in this country?


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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    My understanding was his abortions were late term abortions performed on women and fetuses with health issues.

    I wouldn't call him a murderer.
    He was required to report all procedures. Gestational age and reason as to why it was so late. He was never found to have performed an illegal abortion.
    I don't attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.
    This is the important stuff. We canít get lost in discrimination. We canít get lost in B.S. We canít get lost tearing each other down. I want to make a point here that no matter what you look like, where you come from, how you worship, who you love, how you identify, and yeah, how you run, that if you have good public policy ideas, if you are well qualified for office, bring those ideas to the table, because this is your America, too. This is our commonwealth of Virginia, too.
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    Re: Baby Abortion Survivor Was "Swimming" In Toilet "Trying To Get Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    You were
    talking about having an abortion so that the abuser wouldn't have parental rights to the child.
    you misunderstood what I said. I was talking about abusers not having access to the women they abuse. Its not just a matter of parental rights either, though avoiding having a child with an abuser can help the victim leave.

    I do support victims of violence and domestic violence having a right to abortion.

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