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Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83,846]

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ThePlayDrive said:
I was talking about your wife's comments about Chechens. To generalize them the way she did was prejudiced, by definition.
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Certainly understandable for anyone from Russia to feel that way. Remember this. Had this happened in the US I would guess a majority of Americans would feel the same way.
 
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apdst said:
What was the explosion? Did they ever say? It might have been a blowout on a garbage truck. That's purdy loud.
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The thread's title says gunshots and explosion. That's all I know for certain. I'm hoping they have more information that I do! :shock:
 
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apdst said:
What was the explosion? Did they ever say? It might have been a blowout on a garbage truck. That's purdy loud.
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Some talk of controlled detonations of devices they had found at the suspects' location.
 
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polgara said:
The thread's title says gunshots and explosion. That's all I know for certain. I'm hoping they have more information that I do! :shock:
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That was last night, yes? Now, we're talking 12+ hours.
 
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clownboy said:
Certainly understandable for anyone from Russia to feel that way. Remember this. Had this happened in the US I would guess a majority of Americans would feel the same way.
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There would still be that vocal minority that would say that it is society's fault.
 
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apdst said:
That was last night, yes? Now, we're talking 12+ hours.
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CNN just announced they're coming back with more info on that, after the ads of course.

They're back - LEOs found a significant amount of explosives at the scene last night, they have been doing controlled explosions to deal with the material.
 
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apdst said:
There would still be that vocal minority that would say that it is society's fault.
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Indeed, that's always a goto for that vocal minority. Doesn't dim the horrendous nature of the act, then and now.
 
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Something else I would like to point, is how one friggin' guy has shutdown an entire city.
 
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apdst said:
That was last night, yes? Now, we're talking 12+ hours.
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Apdst, are we to believe that someone being hunted for a crime by many police is going to take the time to set off another explosion? Is it possible that there may be more involved here than just the two brothers, if they are indeed the ones who did this?
 
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polgara said:
Apdst, are we to believe that someone being hunted for a crime by many police is going to take the time to set off another explosion? Is it possible that there may be more involved here than just the two brothers, if they are indeed the ones who did this?
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See #431, CNN just said.
 
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Btw, the media is pestering the hell out of the uncle who hasn't even spoken to these kids since they were little. He stops short of calling them the stupid assholes they are. They hammer with the stupidest questions, and then proceed on obviously not listening to the answers.
 
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clownboy said:
See #431, CNN just said.
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Good afternoon. clownboy. :2wave:

Thanks for the heads up! :peace:

How big was this thing going to be, for God's sake, if they are finding more explosives at different locations? :shock:
 
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polgara said:
Good afternoon. clownboy. :2wave:

Thanks for the heads up! :peace:

How big was this thing going to be, for God's sake, if they are finding more explosives at different locations? :shock:
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Yeah, pretty much wherever they stayed they had material.
 
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apdst said:
Something else I would like to point, is how one friggin' guy has shutdown an entire city.
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Yep.

The police and FBI look pretty bad in all this. They had to put out photos of a guy apparently everyone in Boston could find except them, and now, they've let him drive away from half their force into the shadows again.

For their sake, I almost hope there's a much bigger picture to all this than we know.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
No, you said your wife was not surprised that these guys were Chechen because Russia has a long history of dealing with Muslim extremists who are crazy wherever they go. In other words, your quote reads like your wife is generalizing Chechens as Muslim extremists. Is that not what she meant? If not, it's all good.

We're getting off topic though...
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I said that Russia has a long history of dealing with Muslim extremism that is rooted in the Chechen region. I went on to say that she wasn't surprised that these guys came from there. Finally, I said what amounted to "crazy people are still crazy no matter where they go in the world".

My post only reads like a generalization or a prejudice to you because that is the only way you know how view things. Political correctness first and foremost, everything else be damned...:roll:
 
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apdst said:
Something else I would like to point, is how one friggin' guy has shutdown an entire city.
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Boggles the mind.

One teenager who was just 25-30 feet away from dozens of cops last night...with hundreds more in the area... and they can't find him with the FBI, National Guard, SWAT and practically every officer in the state there to help.

Huh?

This is the kind of thing you'd see in a movie and say, "uh... yeah right. Like one guy is really going to shut down the entire city"
 
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polgara said:
I hope we get a chance to talk to him, since the only other lead was shot to death! The rebels of Chechnya have been fighting for their freedom from Russia for a long time! I might be in the minority here, but some of this just doesn't make sense to me. I'd like to hear an explanation first, just to be certain we have indeed apprehended the right people. If this one is killed, we will never know, and that bothers me! On the other hand, if he's guilty of this horrific crime, fry him! :thumbs:
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He may not provide an opportunity for conversation. He's guilty of at least a murder, or an accessory to murder. He can always surrender. I would like to know his motivations and supporters. Other than that, I have no use for his life, and apparently he doesn't either.
 
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Meanwhile, half the Chechen population will become increasingly convinced that the two "kids" were framed by the American police and FBI because they needed a quick and easy scapegoat for the bombings. Especially if this kid dies, too.

That'll bring the radical Chechen Islamists' ire to America full force.
 
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humbolt said:
He may not provide an opportunity for conversation. He's guilty of at least a murder, or an accessory to murder. He can always surrender. I would like to know his motivations and supporters. Other than that, I have no use for his life, and apparently he doesn't either.
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Yeah, the reporting mentioned that even though they didn't do a suicide bombing, the brother at least seemed to be going for suicide by cop last night. Not sure which way the younger brother will go.
 
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apdst said:
Something else I would like to point, is how one friggin' guy has shutdown an entire city.
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And all out of fear that this 19-year-old boy might have another pressure cooker full of nails and BBs.

What a tough lot we are.
 
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Erod said:
Yep.

The police and FBI look pretty bad in all this. They had to put out photos of a guy apparently everyone in Boston could find except them, and now, they've let him drive away from half their force into the shadows again.

For their sake, I almost hope there's a much bigger picture to all this than we know.
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I don't think it makes them look bad. More like, it points out the reality of what one motivated person can do. Just imagine is if it was 20.
 
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Jack Fabulous said:
My wife is native Russian and lived in St. Petersburg and Moscow for the first 30 years of her life. I was speaking with her just a little while ago and the fact that these guys are Chechen does not surprise her at all. Russia has a long history dealing with Muslim extremism that is rooted in this area of the country. To put it in her words: "It doesn't matter where they go in the world, they will always be crazy. They don't know anything else."
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Hey,
From what i read, seen and heard (and as being a Russian myself) i can testify that those feelings among Russians are indeed true.

Cheers,
Fallen.
 
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apdst said:
I don't think it makes them look bad. More like, it points out the reality of what one motivated person can do. Just imagine is if it was 20.
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Exactly. This only makes the FBI look bad that they can't seem to wrap this all up in a neat package in one hour like on the network TV shows. We're suffering the CSI effect.
 
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Erod said:
Yep.

The police and FBI look pretty bad in all this. They had to put out photos of a guy apparently everyone in Boston could find except them, and now, they've let him drive away from half their force into the shadows again.

For their sake, I almost hope there's a much bigger picture to all this than we know.
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Not hard to believe this guy has some help.
 
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Erod said:
And all out of fear that this 19-year-old boy might have another pressure cooker full of nails and BBs.

What a tough lot we are.
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If he come rootin' around my spread, he better be able to throw that pressure cooker fast, because I'm going to bus'-a-cap in his ass.
 
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