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Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83,846]

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Hard to gauge anything from a twitter account, a lot of it could be for show. Based on those tweets, he seemed far from an extremist Muslim, sounds tuned into western pop culture and doesn't seem to have much of a connection to Chechnya and Chechen politics except through heritage.
I doubt it's for show. It's consistent with how people who knew him described him. He sounds like an average pot head bro.
 
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Perhaps if you had grown up in Russia and had any idea what you are talking about...
I don't need to grow up in Russia to spot a ridiculously prejudiced generalization.
 
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So how did this kid drive over the body of his dead brother and escape from police in the same city for this long?

He got away from that many policeman and FBI agents?
 
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I doubt it's for show. It's consistent with how people who knew him described him. He sounds like an average pot head bro.

I'd agree, but his average pot head bro personality seems to continue beyond the bombing and for some time before when he was undoubtedly planning it and knew what he was about to do.
 
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So how did this kid drive over the body of his dead brother and escape frocitym olive in the same city for this long?

He got away from that many policeman and FBI agents?

A person that is trained, resourceful, intelligent and motivated can do more than most people think.

There's always the possibility that this cat is well out of town, by now. In the past 8 hours, or so, he could be 20 miles down the road. I'm not familiar enough with the Boston area to know for sure, but I bet 20 miles would put him in a rural area, with even more hiding places.
 
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We ought to talk to him first. Then he can expire.

I hope we get a chance to talk to him, since the only other lead was shot to death! The rebels of Chechnya have been fighting for their freedom from Russia for a long time! I might be in the minority here, but some of this just doesn't make sense to me. I'd like to hear an explanation first, just to be certain we have indeed apprehended the right people. If this one is killed, we will never know, and that bothers me! On the other hand, if he's guilty of this horrific crime, fry him! :thumbs:
 
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I don't need to grow up in Russia to spot a ridiculously prejudiced generalization.
So tell me, what is so ****ing prejudiced about calling Muslim extremists crazy?
 
Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

So how did this kid drive over the body of his dead brother and escape from police in the same city for this long?
He got away from that many policeman and FBI agents?

That's what I was wondering. I thought once you got on the highway (In the matrix), you were as good as caught. Don't they communicate and know all the traffic routes and such? I'm sure it's easy from my office chair though.... :)
 
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Perhaps if you had grown up in Russia and had any idea what you are talking about...

It's still an incredibly prejuidiced thing to say. I grew up in the US, but if I made a statement like that about Southerners....

I guess it's OK if it reinforces your previous preconceptions.
 
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So tell me, what is so ****ing prejudiced about calling Muslim extremists crazy?

The way I read it, it was about Chechens, not Islamists.
 
Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

I hope we get a chance to talk to him, since the only other lead was shot to death! The rebels of Chechnya have been fighting for their freedom from Russia for a long time! I might be in the minority here, but some of this just doesn't make sense to me. I'd like to hear an explanation first, just to be certain we have indeed apprehended the right people. If this one is killed, we will never know, and that bothers me! On the other hand, if he's guilty of this horrific crime, fry him! :thumbs:

I don't think you are in the minority (or we both are). Even after we know the names of the suspects and some of their history, evidence seems to point both toward trained terrorists and disgruntled Columbine-like psychos with too much time to stew in their own juices at the same time.
 
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So tell me, what is so ****ing prejudiced about calling Muslim extremists crazy?
I was talking about your wife's comments about Chechens. To generalize them the way she did was prejudiced, by definition.
 
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I'd agree, but his average pot head bro personality seems to continue beyond the bombing and for some time before when he was undoubtedly planning it and knew what he was about to do.
Fair enough, but since it's consistent with what he was like even in high school, I would say that that is a true part of his personality that he made sure to keep up to appear normal. I doubt it's just an entire put on.
 
Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

A person that is trained, resourceful, intelligent and motivated can do more than most people think.

There's always the possibility that this cat is well out of town, by now. In the past 8 hours, or so, he could be 20 miles down the road. I'm not familiar enough with the Boston area to know for sure, but I bet 20 miles would put him in a rural area, with even more hiding places.

Good afternoon, apdst. :2wave:

There was another explosion today? If the one police are hunting is running for his life, who set the latest explosion off? :shock: Too much of this doesn't make sense!
 
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The way I read it, it was about Chechens, not Islamists.
That's the way you wanted to read it. The fact that there is a concentration of extremist Muslims in Chechnya is common knowledge to most Russians.
 
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I hope we get a chance to talk to him, since the only other lead was shot to death! The rebels of Chechnya have been fighting for their freedom from Russia for a long time! I might be in the minority here, but some of this just doesn't make sense to me. I'd like to hear an explanation first, just to be certain we have indeed apprehended the right people. If this one is killed, we will never know, and that bothers me! On the other hand, if he's guilty of this horrific crime, fry him! :thumbs:

I think any actual connection to Chechnya is tangential. By all accounts, they've been living in the US for many years and Dzorkhan is a naturalized citizen.
 
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Good afternoon, apdst. :2wave:

There was another explosion today? If the one police are hunting is running for his life, who set the latest explosion off? :shock: Too much of this doesn't make sense!

controlled explosion by the Police I heard.
 
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I was talking about your wife's comments about Chechens. To generalize them the way she did was prejudiced, by definition.
The generalization was done by you and you alone. You saw it that way because you have gone so far overboard with being politically correct that you have lost the ability to recognize things for what they really are. There is a concentration of Muslim extremists that lives in this region of Russia. They are ****ing crazy. Deal with it.
 
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I think we can safely say that extremists of any stripe can be had. Why do we have so many Islamist extremists in the news? There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world so tell me, how many do you think are extremist?

In my opinion gun control nut extremists are more dangerous to the liberty and freedoms of Americans than Islamist extremists.
 
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Oh, wow, I can't believe you just said that!...LOL!!! Does that mean you're going to stop calling black folks, "African Americans"?

Anyway, all that aside, I never said any of that. I'm only pointing out, that they are Muslims and evidently, they had some motivation to blow up American. Are they a part of a larger network? No one knows, at this point.

I'm only challeging those who are, "schocked", that they're Chechen Muslims, [SIZE=1[B]]which I'm sure has more to do with their disappointment that these dudes aren't white, Repulican, males, from one of the former Confederate states.[/B][/SIZE]

I'll say it again: if you don't want to your comments to be questioned, don't make questionable comments.


Well, they are Caucasian....
 
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Fair enough, but since it's consistent with what he was like even in high school, I would say that that is a true part of his personality that he made sure to keep up to appear normal. I doubt it's just an entire put on.

You're probably right - I only just checked out their friends reactions.

I'll stay with strangest ideologically motivated terrorist attack of all time or strangest socially motivated mass murder attack of all time.

In a word - strange.
 
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The generalization was done by you and you alone. You saw it that way because you have gone so far overboard with being politically correct that you have lost the ability to recognize things for what they really are. There is a concentration of Muslim extremists that lives in this region of Russia. They are ****ing crazy. Deal with it.
No, you said your wife was not surprised that these guys were Chechen because Russia has a long history of dealing with Muslim extremists who are crazy wherever they go. In other words, your quote reads like your wife is generalizing Chechens as Muslim extremists. Is that not what she meant? If not, it's all good.

We're getting off topic though...
 
Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

Good afternoon, apdst. :2wave:

There was another explosion today? If the one police are hunting is running for his life, who set the latest explosion off? :shock: Too much of this doesn't make sense!

What was the explosion? Did they ever say? It might have been a blowout on a garbage truck. That's purdy loud.
 
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You're probably right - I only just checked out their friends reactions.

I'll stay with strangest ideologically motivated terrorist attack of all time or strangest socially motivated mass murder attack of all time.

In a word - strange.
Yeah, I refuse to come to any conclusions about their motives because all the details are painting an odd picture.
 
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Well, they are Caucasian....

Wrong religion to satisfy the PC crowd, though.
 
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