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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Maybe gauntanamo and the military tribunal system screwed everything up in the system.
    What screwed everything up is the childish notion that the bad guys will hate us more than they do if we execute these people.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What screwed everything up is the childish notion that the bad guys will hate us more than they do if we execute these people.
    What jihadists are you specifically referring to, when you seem to say that jihadists are less likely to less likely to receive the death penalty than those who are not jihadists?

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're already heroes, for pulling off the job. It won't make any difference.
    On the contrary, especially for Muslim reactionaries. It's 'Shahid', or "I bear witness that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah." Making him a martyr only serves to encourage others.

    Surely you don't believe that they're going to hate us MORE if we execute these dudes?
    Hate us more? No.
    "Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough."
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I actually
    have to explain to you why McVeigh isn't a jihadist? Or, are you just trying to stir a pot of ****?
    Explain the difference

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Perhaps it's because McVeigh wasn't a jihadist.
    Terror is terror

    Timothy Macveigh was a terrorist.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    By all means, do present your verifiable evidence that the police can question an arrested person for 24 hours before giving him his attorney.
    In evidence, the public-safety rule is an exception to the Miranda rule. The public-safety exception allows into evidence an otherwise suppressible statement made by a defendant relating to information that the police needed at the time it was made in order to protect the public.

    Public-Safety Exception Law & Legal Definition
    I can't believe I have to actually explain this stuff to some folks.
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Terror is terror

    Timothy Macveigh was a terrorist.
    I never said he wasn't.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Explain the difference
    Jihadists are MUSLIM terrorists. McVeigh wasn't a Muslim.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I can't believe I have to actually explain this stuff to some folks.
    I bet they'll attempt to try him as an enemy combatant. That'll be a hard slog.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    What jihadists are you specifically referring to, when you seem to say that jihadists are less likely to less likely to receive the death penalty than those who are not jihadists?
    I'm talking about all the Islamic terrorists that have been convicted since 9/11.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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