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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Let's start with IED's, eh?

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    CNN reporting a whole lot of detail about last night's battle with the two. Including that the brother killed was wearing explosives.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I took what a college buddy of mine in Newtown CT with a grain of salt but he was right on the money with the age of the shooter--i fudged it a little bit when I repeated it to allow room for him being off a little but he wasn't. My friends in Cambridge have posted more or less the same things this week--mostly along the lines of what I think someone else posted at DP "WTF, this is Boston. This is not supposed to be happening here!!" Otherwise, they seem to be just as in the dark as everybody else.
    That shock value is what made the marathon such a juicy target.
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Sounds like the motive that was behind the infamous Mitchell Palmer raids of 1919.
    It worked then, too.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It worked then, too.
    It worked to do what exactly?
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    You didn't read my WHOLE quote. I have history with the Chechen fighters who came over to the sandbox and helped hunt me and my comrades. I have lost some very good friends to the bastards. The bastards EARNED my enmity. Screw them and theirs. If all of them died tomorrow I wouldn't shed a tear. Might even dance a jig.
    So, going to war with a nationality justifies wishing death upon their entire people?

    Can you imagine the number of innocents who have died at the died to at hands of the US government, who, according to your reasoning, should have that same justification?

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    I can't believe they haven't caught him yet.

    If the kid was wounded in the shootout last night, he might already be dead. Then he would become a stink bomb. jk i joke to lighten mood. hahaha.


    He has a handgun, thats all the police seem to know.

    I'm leaning toward the opinion that he was influenced by older brother to do this horrific act.

    Here's a few tidbits I've heard about the family so far....it might be true...and it might not.....


    The family are political refugees and moved to the US over a decade ago.

    The older brother recently returned last November from 6 month trip to Russia. It was his first trip back since fleeing. Nobody knows who he saw, where he went or what he did over there. But it is speculated that he was radicalized during that period. The uncle said he told him he had married and had a child since they had last seen each other. No word on their whereabouts. But I think the brothers were also sharing an apartment.

    The family seems to have been estranged from each other for years. The uncle hadn't seen the boys since 2005. However, the older brother apparently called him Thursday night out of the blue and told him that he loved him, which shocked the uncle because he hadn't seen or heard from him in years. The uncle helped ID the brothers to the FBI after he recognized them on tv.

    The father moved back to Chechen Russia a few years ago. Nobody knows his involvement but he seems indenial or lying.

    The mother was recently busted for shoplifting over $1000 in clothes from Lord Taylor in Philidelphia(?) not sure what city, but it wasn't Boston. (coincidence: one of the bombs was planted in front of a Lord Taylor store) The family were not practicing Muslims, but the mother may have started attending a mosque about a year ago.

    There are two sisters, one lives in New Jersey and the other in Canada. Neither of them had seen their brothers in years.

    It looks to me like the family was estranged from each other. Without parental figures present, I can see why the younger brother probably looked up to his older brother. A boxing coach said he followed his older brother around like a puppy.

    The younger brother seemed just like a normal American kid and well liked. Thats why I think this was mostly the older brothers doing. He seemed to have a chip on his shoulder which made him easy prey for radicalizing.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    So, going to war with a nationality justifies wishing death upon their entire people?

    Can you imagine the number of innocents who have died at the died to at hands of the US government, who, according to your reasoning, should have that same justification?
    So you are concerned with innocents killed in war, but seem rather casual about innocent Americans killed in an act of terrorism....hmmmmm....
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It worked to do what exactly?
    To kill, arrest and deport hundreds of commies. Probably saved the country from the same fate as Europe.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    So, going to war with a nationality justifies wishing death upon their entire people?

    Can you imagine the number of innocents who have died at the died to at hands of the US government, who, according to your reasoning, should have that same justification?
    While I understand your sentiment, we're not talking about a small band of Chechens. The percentage is high.

    Think Hitler and the German common people. Did you hear the president of Chechnya today? He blamed America for the bombing.

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