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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I'm thinking he may have offed himself already.

    I've never heard such glowing opinions of a killer in my life. How did such a seemingly well-adjusted, likable, active, accomplished, and integrated kid get sucked into all this.

    His older brother was back and forth from the states, and he obviously had some issues with America. He looks like an al-Quaida recruit, or at least someone who heavily identified with them. I guess there was some hero worship involved or something, because the young guy seemed to have a very good life with a lot of friends and a great future ahead of him. Hard to fake it for 10 years throughout your childhood and college.

    Where's his mom in all this? Who did he live with?

    I hope they get this kid alive so we can find out how all this happened, but I'm not optimistic. Again, he might already be dead in a bush somewhere.

    What kind of demon got into this kid? Just what kind of preaching does this to someone?
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I'm thinking he may have offed himself already.

    I've never heard such glowing opinions of a killer in my life. How did such a seemingly well-adjusted, likable, active, accomplished, and integrated kid get sucked into all this.

    His older brother was back and forth from the states, and he obviously had some issues with America. He looks like an al-Quaida recruit, or at least someone who heavily identified with them. I guess there was some hero worship involved or something, because the young guy seemed to have a very good life with a lot of friends and a great future ahead of him. Hard to fake it for 10 years throughout your childhood and college.

    Where's his mom in all this? Who did he live with?

    I hope they get this kid alive so we can find out how all this happened, but I'm not optimistic. Again, he might already be dead in a bush somewhere.

    What kind of demon got into this kid? Just what kind of preaching does this to someone?
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    You really think that was a possibility? You think that they may have had the capability to take out an entire block, but chose to do a couple of pressure cooker bombs on Monday instead, holding on to the big one just in case they found themselves corned and unable to take out two or three dozen cops with their rifles and pipe bombs - as a backup plan they could jump into the car and if the police stopped them THEN set off the big one.
    This is just me speculating, but I don't see it like that.

    I don't think these guys choose to use the pressure cookers and hold on to the big one "just in case".

    I think they choose to use the pressure cookers because they thought they were going to get away with it.

    Whatever additional explosives they had available were for the next one, and the next one, and ...

    Look at how things went down last night.

    Those cats were absolutely scrambling; out robbing stores and carjacking folks at 10:30 at night.

    Those images that the FBI circulated yesterday took these dudes completely by surprise.

    The two of them had no real GTF out of Dodge plan, or at least not one that they could impliment immediately.

    The box closed way more quickly then they ever suspected and when it did they went from cold-blooded, steely-eyed killers to amature hour.

    Look at the kid's Twitter feed from Monday night and Tuesday, he's joking around like a clown. Sure he had to be nervous (I'd assume) but he didn't got to ground in any way at all. He's even cracking jokes about the victims.

    Could they have packed a car with explosives and used it as a VBIED in an attempt to extricate themselves? I don't know.

    But from the looks of things they had no such plan, or any real plan at all as far as it goes.
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    We're (including journalists) still learning how to manage insta-info, and the "crowdsourcing" element is new. Appears that the FBI really was helped by regular citizens, including web-sleuth groups and social utilities. Brave new world that means more and more cameras recording our every move. Can't argue with the utility but do mourn the increasing loss of privacy.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    You're right about CNN's reporting in particular early on. I pointed to social media, because there seems to be an expectation that one can learn sooner and just as accurately about developments from there. Instead, some info. is good, some is not. As with any major story, one should apply a dose of caution to early reports (traditional media or social media) until there is confirmation or corroboration. This is a fluid story and a lot of information is incomplete or yet to be determined.
    I took what a college buddy of mine in Newtown CT with a grain of salt but he was right on the money with the age of the shooter--i fudged it a little bit when I repeated it to allow room for him being off a little but he wasn't. My friends in Cambridge have posted more or less the same things this week--mostly along the lines of what I think someone else posted at DP "WTF, this is Boston. This is not supposed to be happening here!!" Otherwise, they seem to be just as in the dark as everybody else.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I took what a college buddy of mine in Newtown CT with a grain of salt but he was right on the money with the age of the shooter--i fudged it a little bit when I repeated it to allow room for him being off a little but he wasn't. My friends in Cambridge have posted more or less the same things this week--mostly along the lines of what I think someone else posted at DP "WTF, this is Boston. This is not supposed to be happening here!!" Otherwise, they seem to be just as in the dark as everybody else.
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I'm thinking he may have offed himself already.

    I've never heard such glowing opinions of a killer in my life. How did such a seemingly well-adjusted, likable, active, accomplished, and integrated kid get sucked into all this.

    His older brother was back and forth from the states, and he obviously had some issues with America. He looks like an al-Quaida recruit, or at least someone who heavily identified with them. I guess there was some hero worship involved or something, because the young guy seemed to have a very good life with a lot of friends and a great future ahead of him.
    What kind of demon got into this kid? Just what kind of preaching does this to someone?


    We may never know all of the facts behind this tragedy, but I am just going to guess that the younger brother was influenced by the older brother.

    All that they have done is bring tragedy to innocent people and ultimately to themselves.

    Let's hope that the younger brother is captured alive so that maybe we can learn what they hoped to accomplish by doing these horrible things.



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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    That's unfortunate. I heard an ex-FBI agent talking on the Roe Show (he's been verified thru the show), (WLS-Chicago Radio) and he said law enforcement often leaks a photo when they're looking for "the other guy" because of the emotional reaction it may cause -- and the guy on the loose may do something stupid that gets him caught. He claims he's seen it done dozens of times . . .
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
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    Let's start with IED's, eh?

    Then we'll talk about the other stuff.

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