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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    No, some Chechens earned your enmity. Others did not. What you've done in general an entire group of people because of what some of them did to you and your friends. It's sad. It's incredibly sad and adds nothing but more irrational hate into the world. If you have a problem with the people who hurt you, fine. But to hold an entire ethnicity responsible for the actions of a particular group with in them is nonsensical, at best. I am so sick of people acting like its rational to hate entire ethnicity and races because some people within that race or ethnicity did horrible things. It's not rational. That's the kind of irrationality that gets people killed.
    Actually its very rational. Their community assisted them in hunting and killing my friends and hunting myself. They provided aid and comfort. They fed and clothed and assisted and provided resources to the vermin. They are as culpable if not MORE so. Hate? Not so much. I am way past that. I don't feel anything for them.
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Its a wonder how this guy has stayed out of sight for so long with the police out in such force. Are they even sure he is there?

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    From what I've seen, social media has been just as reliable as regular media. Some of the info has turned out to be accurate while some of it has turned out to be inaccurate. The same goes with the mainstream media. Today, people on social networks reported that the suspect was in custody. Two days ago CNN did the same thing. I haven't really seen a significant difference in the quality of reporting.
    Wall to wall coverage, and a 24/7 outlet drives this...Too much time, so much speculation.
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    From what I've seen, social media has been just as reliable as regular media. Some of the info has turned out to be accurate while some of it has turned out to be inaccurate. The same goes with the mainstream media. Today, people on social networks reported that the suspect was in custody. Two days ago CNN did the same thing. I haven't really seen a significant difference in the quality of reporting.
    You're right about CNN's reporting in particular early on. I pointed to social media, because there seems to be an expectation that one can learn sooner and just as accurately about developments from there. Instead, some info. is good, some is not. As with any major story, one should apply a dose of caution to early reports (traditional media or social media) until there is confirmation or corroboration. This is a fluid story and a lot of information is incomplete or yet to be determined.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wall to wall coverage, and a 24/7 outlet drives this...Too much time, so much speculation.
    So true. And I am guilty of listening to it.
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    From what I've seen, social media has been just as reliable as regular media. Some of the info has turned out to be accurate while some of it has turned out to be inaccurate. The same goes with the mainstream media. Today, people on social networks reported that the suspect was in custody. Two days ago CNN did the same thing. I haven't really seen a significant difference in the quality of reporting.
    The problem with social media with this one is that they're misleading and frustrating FBI efforts as much as helping. Like the asshat who announced to the world via twitter that the FBI was at his apartments. Thanks for letting them know we're coming guy.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    They are doing the best they can.
    ...that's most certainly the case, and I have much respect for them. I'm just wondering whether this will have a lot of cities reevaluating their training programs to make sure that their officers are as prepared as can be for such situations. I'm sure there will be a lot of "lessons learned" from all of this that will help us react better in the future (but worried that the likelihood of future attacks is greater the longer this goes on).

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I believe they're approaching the point where it's going to be time to completely pull back and let this dude relax and show himself.

    As long as the only people on the streets are cops, this guy is staying put; unless he's already skipped town and ain't lookin' back.
    I'm thinking he may have offed himself already.

    I've never heard such glowing opinions of a killer in my life. How did such a seemingly well-adjusted, likable, active, accomplished, and integrated kid get sucked into all this.

    His older brother was back and forth from the states, and he obviously had some issues with America. He looks like an al-Quaida recruit, or at least someone who heavily identified with them. I guess there was some hero worship involved or something, because the young guy seemed to have a very good life with a lot of friends and a great future ahead of him. Hard to fake it for 10 years throughout your childhood and college.

    Where's his mom in all this? Who did he live with?

    I hope they get this kid alive so we can find out how all this happened, but I'm not optimistic. Again, he might already be dead in a bush somewhere.

    What kind of demon got into this kid? Just what kind of preaching does this to someone?

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    You're right about CNN's reporting in particular early on. I pointed to social media, because there seems to be an expectation that one can learn sooner and just as accurately about developments from there. Instead, some info. is good, some is not. As with any major story, one should apply a dose of caution to early reports (traditional media or social media) until there is confirmation or corroboration. This is a fluid story and a lot of information is incomplete or yet to be determined.
    I actually heard it reported how many "friends" the young kid had on Facebook. Which is 77, in case your curious.

    I mean, what the hell difference does that make?

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Chances are excellent that the kid is still in the area. Chances are pretty good that he's been hit by gun fire. He's likely holed up somewhere. He'll need to move - for water and maybe medical attention of some kind. He'll move after dark if he's still alive and in the area.

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