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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    The Russians don't consider it prejudiced, they consider a practical observation. So do I. I don't care if you think I am prejudiced, I am prejudiced against Chechens, VERY, they EARNED my enmity. It wouldn't hurt my feelings a bit to see the lot of them burn in hell.
    Meh, it's prejudiced. It's funny because these guys' Chechen uncle came on and completely denounced the attacks. Even the other Chechen family members who think they're innocent denounced the attacks. I'm sure there are plenty more Chechens who would denounce the attacks. And yet here we are with people denigrating all Chechen people because the bombers happened to be Chechen.

    It's amazing. It's just so amazing and so disheartening to see people fall into the very trap that they would be expected to fall into: generalizing and condemning an entire people in response to the actions of two. It's so weak. It's just so very weak to fall into that trap. You and others may be comfortable with such prejudice, but I won't ever be. I'm better than that, I'm smarter than that and I always will be.
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Exactly why this is making more upset with each hour that goes by. This is just embarrassing.
    I feel for law enforcement on this one. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't. They are doing the best they can.
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    In the movies, yes. In real life, rarely.
    Rare sure, in this case apparently so....
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    if he had the upper hand he and his brother would have been planting another pressure cooker bomb somewhere in boston. instead one is dead and the other is running for his life from the law.
    Again, have they found him? Do they even have a clue where he is? No, they don't.
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A city where he has ZERO help, from anyone and no one has seen hide, nor hair of him.
    Do we know that for sure?

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Don't tell me Arnold was really the governor of CA. I know it was just a cover. He's in Boston right now, with that grenade launcher, ready to make that scumbag pay.
    He did say, 'I'll be back! You just gotta believe Arnold!

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I feel for law enforcement on this one. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't. They are doing the best they can.
    They're saying it as it is right now on CNN. The police don't know what is booby trapped, if anything.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I feel for law enforcement on this one. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't. They are doing the best they can.
    What's embarressing, is the resources that are being thrown at effort; the entire metro area is on lockdown. I mean, fire trucks, armored HMMV's, blackhawks?

    The biggest question is, how long are they willing to keep the city locked down?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Three points concerning commentary in this thread:

    First, we know little about the actual circumstances at the time the suspect escaped last night. What is known is that the massive manhunt in the Watertown area began afterward, not beforehand. The level of manpower in that area was nowhere near where it is right now at the time the suspect escaped.

    Second, it remains to be seen whether he got out of the Watertown or greater Boston area or is currently in hiding in Watertown/greater Boston area. The search will require additional time. It is difficult and dangerous. A careful approach needs to be pursued. IMO, Law Enforcement should not be compelled to turn the search into some kind of "race" against the clock. They should take the time required to get the job done safely and successfully. The lives and wellbeing of the people living in the affected area and those participating in the search vastly outweigh the inconvenience the methodical pace might be causing others. A rushed approach could lead to errors or even harm to residents/Law Enforcement personnel.

    Third, even as it has garnered unprecedented visibility, the social media has actually been a poor source of information in some critical aspects of the unfolding events. It has been a source of erroneous claims about arrests and a hostage situation (some of which were posted here by members who relied on its accounts).

    Some posts that were drawn from the rampant speculation on the social media to highlight the speculative nature of that content:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061709453
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061709458
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061709469
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061710750

    Those posts are not the fault of members. They reflect the actual questionable reliability of the sources of the information on which they relied.

    Social media is not vetted for accuracy. It provides raw information of questionable quality, some good, some not good. There is a highly speculative element involved where twitter feeds, etc., have distributed conclusions that simply could not be drawn from the combination of few facts and great uncertainty involved.

    In short, one should be extremely cautious about assuming that tweeted information or references to information taken from police scanners (often missing the underlying context for those simply hearing it to properly understand what is actually being described) is accurate. If or when the search is concluded, Law Enforcement will provide an account.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Meh, it's prejudiced. It's funny because these guys' uncle came on and completely denounced the attacks. Even the family members who think they're innocent denounched the attacks. I'm sure there are plenty more Chechens who would denounce the attacks. And yet here we are with people denigrating all Chechen people because the bombers happened to be Chechen.

    It's amazing. It's just so amazing and so disheartening to see people fall into the very trap that they would be expected to fall into: generalizing and condemning an entire people in response to the actions of two. It's so weak. It's just so very weak to fall into that trap. You and others may be comfortable with such prejudice, but I won't ever be. I'm better than that, I'm smarter than that and I always will be.
    You didn't read my WHOLE quote. I have history with the Chechen fighters who came over to the sandbox and helped hunt me and my comrades. I have lost some very good friends to the bastards. The bastards EARNED my enmity. Screw them and theirs. If all of them died tomorrow I wouldn't shed a tear. Might even dance a jig.
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