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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I heard, specifically, the word grenade, used. Not improvised explosive device, which is what you make with hardware store supplies.
    Everything up to this point has been improvised. If they had they had real grenades, they would not have used pressure cookers. I am pretty sure given the chaotic news reporting and the fact to most people anything these asshats threw was a grenade, that these were indeed improvised grenades (which would also be considered IEDs). Just my professional opinion.
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Good faith went out the window when the bombs detonated. If it will make you feel better, we could temper the hate by saying that they dispassionately and indiscriminately murdered and maimed nearly two hundred innocents. Feel better?
    I didn't let my good faith in other people go out the window when the bombs detonated. I'm better than that. I'm still capable of having good faith conversations with other people who, like me, are just interested in accurate information. I don't see how someone else's disgusting behavior would require me to follow suit.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    You said that he stated he "hated Americans" in his own words. He didn't.

    You know? I was in this thread with several others early this morning and in terms of interactions with one another, it was snark free and good faith conversation. It's a shame that that had to go.
    But, when you make excuses for these clowns by blaming society, you expect that to go unchallenged.
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Let me repeat this: I wasn't debating that it was a "natural conclusion." I was debating the assertion that the bomber said, in his own words, that he "hates Americans." He didn't say that. Other people such as yourself concluded it.
    Maybe people concluded that because he indiscriminately bombed innocent Americans, killing three and doing irreparable harm to scores of others. The bombs were not a sign of affection, no matter what you've been told.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I didn't let my good faith in other people go out the window when the bombs detonated. I'm better than that. I'm still capable of having good faith conversations with other people who, like me, are just interested in accurate information. I don't see how someone else's disgusting behavior would require me to follow suit.
    What disgusting behavior? Blowing innocent people up, or the temerity of those of us who label people who blow others up as hateful ****s?

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, when you make excuses for these clowns by blaming society, you expect that to go unchallenged.
    Not a single person in this thread has made excuses for anyone. This entire thread, until very recently, has been about gathering information with some casual speculation.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Don't go so overboard with being PC that you lose the ability to think rationally. These guys were/are Muslim extremists, any way you slice it. The fact that anyone believes that that it is somehow insensitive to state this fact out loud is a poor reflection on our society, in my opinion.
    In all fairness, I think it more accurate to state that they are most likely Islamic extremist terrorists at this point in time given their background and events. We really do not know for sure.
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Let me repeat this: I wasn't debating that it was a "natural conclusion." I was debating the assertion that the bomber said, in his own words, that he "hates Americans." He didn't say that. Other people such as yourself concluded it.
    Yes, we do conclude that. it is a rational response.
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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

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    Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83,846]Guys, I suggest everyone go back and read the warning in post 83. To sum it up...cut the baiting, cut the attempts to go after each other personally, cut the sarcastic responses to each other, and stick to discussing the topic itself in this thread.

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    Re: Gunfire, explosions reported around Dexter Street in Watertown. (Boston)[W: 83]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yes, we do conclude that. it is a rational response.
    Why do you keep repeating this, though? I was never debating whether or not your conclusion was rational. I was countering the claim that the suspect had said that he "hated Americans."

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