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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    As opposed to what? Middle Eastern? Black? Hispanic?

    No one is "relieved" that the suspects appear white.
    Yeah, whatever!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That has to do with defamation - not photography. Very specific.
    Who is getting "defamed?"

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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, whatever!
    How about this: No matter what race or ethnicity the suspects are, they deserve the full weight of the law, and there should be justice.

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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    How about this: No matter what race or ethnicity the suspects are, they deserve the full weight of the law, and there should be justice.
    Well, you know and I know that their are folks out there that aren't thinking like that.
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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

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    I see. Why's a dude from The Valley such a Texas Ranger Fan? I figured you would be hanging out in Lexington, paying homage to TJ Jackson.
    Hmmm. Sorry, but not from the The Valley. And a photo of W.T. Sherman has graced my office wall since 1989.
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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Yep. The image is not being used for advertising purposes. It doesn't matter if the photographer is on a salary or is a freelancer, they obviously have the legal right to do what they do -- as long as they are not trespassing.
    I agree they have a legal right to do what they do, as detestable as it is. But the public photo is not the issue where it comes to the advertising question (see below). Being in business to sell photos is indeed a commercial enterprise. Selling photos of people taken in public is indeed commercial.

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    No, it's because using the image is a commercial act. I seriously doubt the statutes mention anything about "endorsements," which are contracts between private parties.
    Has nothing to do with it being "a commercial act", again, selling the photo in the first place was a commercial act. Can't use someone's photo in a non-commercial advo either. That's because it's implied endorsement without permission.

    And yet I can plaster any photo I took of you in public, public figure or not, on the front page of the PennySaver (if I were editor), without your permission, and SELL as many papers as I wish (commercial activity).

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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That he is, but given the limitations of humanity; he cannot be everywhere for all hours.

    If that FBI van wants to sit on my street for all hours, it may. It cannot use any tech to see or hear inside my home without warrant, anything they see through open window is inadmissible less they have warrant, it should be extremely restricted from recording everything without warrant either. But if they just want to sit in that van and do nothing, then more power to them.
    this right here is exactly why libertarianism stays irrelevant. people will argue to the point of lunacy

    what next. no flashlights. People can't see for all hours.

    go away

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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Has nothing to do with it being "a commercial act", again, selling the photo in the first place was a commercial act. Can't use someone's photo in a non-commercial advo either. That's because it's implied endorsement without permission.
    OK, again, "endorsement" is not relevant. As far as I know, the term does not appear in any statutes, and that's not the limit.

    The question is how the image will be used, either for "journalistic" or "commercial" purposes. It doesn't matter if the paparazzo is paid for his work, because it is being published as a type of news.

    However, it doesn't matter if you are a public or private figure, in public or in private. If someone uses the image for a commercial purpose -- e.g. put in an ad, put on a t-shirt, put on a book cover -- without permission, that's illegal, and they can get sued for it.

    If I'm walking down the street and I take a photo of a random person, and put that on the cover of my book, and I did not get their permission -- or I lost the release -- and I get sued, I'm almost certainly going to lose the case. There is no expectation that an unknown person is "endorsing" my book. The problem is that I am using an image of that person for a commercial purpose without their permission.


    And yet I can plaster any photo I took of you in public, public figure or not, on the front page of the PennySaver (if I were editor), without your permission, and SELL as many papers as I wish (commercial activity).
    No, you can't.

    The PennySaver is not a media outlet, and I'm not doing anything newsworthy. That's using the image for a "commercial purpose," and you can't do that without my permission.

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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    this right here is exactly why libertarianism stays irrelevant. people will argue to the point of lunacy

    what next. no flashlights. People can't see for all hours.

    go away
    Did I say no flashlights? Or are you just trying to be absurd to push a point you have no rational defense of?

    Go away.
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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    The PennySaver is not a media outlet, and I'm not doing anything newsworthy. That's using the image for a "commercial purpose," and you can't do that without my permission.
    And yet all over America it's done on a daily basis. Photographs of shoppers, people walking, talking, doing whatever. Names not noted, no release necessary. Heck, my photo was shown in the local Penny Saver (that's why I chose that publication to mention) several times, not once did I sign a release. One time I was signing with a local choir at a public park, another I was playing guitar, again at a public park and another where I was just standing there on the street.

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