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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You said we couldn't [legally] steal your identity in public, do you deny saying that? How far you going to take this attempt to repair what YOU said?
    I did not deny what I said, it remains true. You may not steal my identity in public, this is true. This demonstrates that I have some above ZERO expectation to privacy in public.

    The real problem here is that you think you said something you didn't.
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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You don't need to look middle eastern to be affiliated with middle eastern connected terrorist organizations. We here in Canada are learning all about that with four Canadian students being involved in the al Quida attack on the Algerian oil plant last year.
    Speaking of Canada ... doesn't that look like a Toronto Bluejay bird on the side of cap of suspect #1?
    Looks like some kind of bird or fish but I couldn't find a cap that looks close enough to the one he was wearing.

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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Speaking of Canada ... doesn't that look like a Toronto Bluejay bird on the side of cap of suspect #1?
    Looks like some kind of bird or fish but I couldn't find a cap that looks close enough to the one he was wearing.
    I'm really surprised that the hats were not specifically emphasized. What's up bubba?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The real problem here is that you think you said something you didn't.
    Read that while looking in a mirror and you'd finally have it.

    Look, I know now what you were going for, but you're still wrong using the word "identity" and going for "steal". This isn't a society that subscribes to the idea that your soul can be stolen with a photograph. Even the founders wouldn't have believed that.

    Now, show us ANY law that says you cannot be photographed in public. Or how about a court decision?

    For your education:

    There are two types of expectations of privacy:

    A subjective expectation of privacy is an opinion of a person that a certain location or situation is private. These obviously vary greatly from person to person.
    An objective, legitimate or reasonable expectation of privacy is an expectation of privacy generally recognized by society.
    Examples of places where a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy are person's residence or hotel room[1] and public places which have been specifically provided by businesses or the public sector to ensure privacy, such as public restrooms, private portions of jailhouses,[2] or a phone booth.[3][4]

    In general, one cannot have a reasonable expectation of privacy in things held out to the public. A well-known example is that there are no privacy rights in garbage left for collection in a public place.[2] Other examples include: pen registers that record the numbers dialed from particular telephones;[5] conversations with others, though there could be a Sixth Amendment violation if the police send an individual to question a defendant who has already been formally charged;[6] a person's physical characteristics, such as voice and handwriting;[7] what is observed pursuant to aerial surveillance that is conducted in public navigable airspace not using equipment that unreasonably enhances the surveying government official's vision;[8][9] anything in open fields (e.g. barn);[10] smells that can be detected by the use of a drug-sniffing dog during a routine traffic stop, even if the government official did not have probable cause or reasonable suspicion to suspect that drugs were present in the defendant's vehicle;[11] and paint scrapings on the outside of a vehicle.[12]

    While a person may have a subjective expectation of privacy in his/her car, it is not always an objective one, unlike a person's home.[13]

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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Excellent observation. Good evening jcj...
    Hey Paul ... ya think James D Hill would be ticked off if someone told him they were glad Obama lost on guns because it ticked ant-gun nuts like him and Obama off?

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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I did not deny what I said, it remains true. You may not steal my identity in public, this is true. This demonstrates that I have some above ZERO expectation to privacy in public.

    The real problem here is that you think you said something you didn't.
    It's clear that just because you are in public you haven't waived all rights to privacy, however, any part of you or part of your property that is readily visible to others in the public no longer has an expectation of privacy or right to privacy. If you're naked in public, you have waived your right to privacy of your person. If you carry a bloody knife openly in public, that may be used against you in a trial if that bloody knife is material to a crime. Likewise, if you invite police into your home and they see a bloody knife on a table in plain view, they don't need a search warrant to take that bloody knife as evidence of a crime.

    By going out in public, you are waiving your right to privacy of that which you display in public.

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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Hey Paul ... ya think James D Hill would be ticked off if someone told him they were glad Obama lost on guns because it ticked ant-gun nuts like him and Obama off?
    I'm not sure James has a sense of humor...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'm really surprised that the hats were not specifically emphasized. What's up bubba?
    Yeah. What's up with that? Seems like a natural thing to focus on. Maybe they assumed it might be a red herring.

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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Yeah. What's up with that? Seems like a natural thing to focus on. Maybe they assumed it might be a red herring.
    I'm still at a bit of a loss that it wasn't done...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
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    Re: FBI releases photos of Boston blast suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Speaking of Canada ... doesn't that look like a Toronto Bluejay bird on the side of cap of suspect #1?
    Looks like some kind of bird or fish but I couldn't find a cap that looks close enough to the one he was wearing.
    Good evening bubba - no, that's not a Jays hat, at least not one I've ever seen - the symbol on the side looks more like a Nike emblem or if it's a bird a seagull or an eagle - if it's an eagle, it could be an American Eagle brand hat, but I couldn't say.

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