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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks...[W: 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    That is the Breaking News banner headline on cnn.com.

    Fox News' banner reads: "SENATE REJECTS PLAN EXPANDING GUN BACKGROUNDCHECKS IN 54-46 VOTE"

    Edit: And now there is a full link to include.

    Background check plan defeated in Senate, Obama rips gun bill opponents | Fox News
    It's already difficult enough to buy a gun, not to mention gun dealers won't sell to "sketchy" individuals at gun shows...Oh yeah lets not forget gun enthusiasts are not killers... No we go fishing and hunting and when we do go hunting we generally use bows instead of guns. Even if we did use a gun it would be a shotgun for birds.

    I have no idea why I'm demonized because gangbangers buy illegal guns and kill people while I shoot at food with a gun (im not a bird hunter either, I'm a bow hunter) or that I enjoy shooting at bottles or general inanimate targets...

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by dnsmith View Post
    It is not the "NRA" which has the power, or the money. It is the 5 million plus members who have the power and congress knows we tend to vote against idiots who pass gun control laws.
    I do not think its just the 5 million plus NRA members. There are around 70-80 million plus gun owners in this country, most of whom actually respect peoples right to keep and bear arms without it being infringed on.There are also lots of Americans who don't own guns but respect and value everyone else's constitutional rights to keep and bear arms without that right being infringed on. If it was just 5 million plus people I do not think congress would care.
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not think its just the 5 million plus NRA members. There are around 70-80 million plus gun owners in this country, most of whom actually respect peoples right to keep and bear arms without it being infringed on.There are also lots of Americans who don't own guns but respect and value everyone else's constitutional rights to keep and bear arms without that right being infringed on. If it was just 5 million plus people I do not think congress would care.
    I agree that there are more gun owners than NRA members. I was only making it clear that it is not the NRA making decisions but rather the NRA following the wishes of their members. Plus WE VOTE.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not think its just the 5 million plus NRA members. There are around 70-80 million plus gun owners in this country, most of whom actually respect peoples right to keep and bear arms without it being infringed on.There are also lots of Americans who don't own guns but respect and value everyone else's constitutional rights to keep and bear arms without that right being infringed on. If it was just 5 million plus people I do not think congress would care.
    I remember Heston saying something of the sort to anti-gun loonies: "We don't need permission to be here because we are already here."

    I loved that - just cant remember the verbatim quote.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by dnsmith View Post
    All gun control is an incremental step to "gun grabbing." It may not be in your mind, but for sure it is with the major gun control nuts.
    No it isn't. That is just right-wing hysteria promulgated by the gun nuts. That is akin to saying that smoking a joint leads to heroin addiction. It is nothing more than a line fed to the ignorant paranoid folk who sit in their houses fearing that the government is coming to take their bibles and guns away.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No it isn't. That is just right-wing hysteria promulgated by the gun nuts. That is akin to saying that smoking a joint leads to heroin addiction. It is nothing more than a line fed to the ignorant paranoid folk who sit in their houses fearing that the government is coming to take their bibles and guns away.
    Nope! Not hysteria! Maybe you don't want to confiscate all our guns but too many politicians like Feinstein do. Check out this daily Kos web site when explains incremental elimination of private owner ship of firearms.Daily Kos: How to Ban Guns: A step by step, long term process

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by dnsmith View Post
    Nope! Not hysteria! Maybe you don't want to confiscate all our guns but too many politicians like Feinstein do. Check out this daily Kos web site when explains incremental elimination of private owner ship of firearms.Daily Kos: How to Ban Guns: A step by step, long term process
    Yes....it IS paranoid hysteria. Just because some people might want to ban all guns does not mean that everyone who supports reasonable restrictions of guns is coming after you and your guns. It is amazing to me that some people get so caught up in the propoganda and hysteria that they become overly paranoid to the point of believing that people are out to get them and their guns.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes....it IS paranoid hysteria. Just because some people might want to ban all guns does not mean that everyone who supports reasonable restrictions of guns is coming after you and your guns. It is amazing to me that some people get so caught up in the propoganda and hysteria that they become overly paranoid to the point of believing that people are out to get them and their guns.
    You've already applied a straw argument into what he said...He never said that "everyone" supporting this legislation is coming after our guns...All one has to do is study how the banning of personal guns in Germany from 1919 thru the WWII can clearly see how this would happen. Also, that Janet Napalatano of DHS fame, was busted trying to get MO registration listings, prompting the MO official to resign in disgrace. They tried in that case to skirt the language of the law by having DHS request the list, and not the AG. This is how slippery, and what liars they are.
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    The bottom line is....by opposing even the most reasonable of efforts to curb gun violence in America, the NRA and the wacko gun nuts are clearly showing America how extreme they are. This cannot be helpful to their cause. The idea that you have to oppose EVERY effort because it could potentially, although highly improbable that it will lead to the government coming into your homes to steal your guns is simply paranoid delusional. It is ridiculous and weakens the underlying cause that they are fighting for. They are marginalizing themselves in the eyes of the majority of America.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    I am very pro gun, but this time I thought we should get on board with this one. It could really backfire.
    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The bottom line is....by opposing even the most reasonable of efforts to curb gun violence in America, the NRA and the wacko gun nuts are clearly showing America how extreme they are. This cannot be helpful to their cause. The idea that you have to oppose EVERY effort because it could potentially, although highly improbable that it will lead to the government coming into your homes to steal your guns is simply paranoid delusional. It is ridiculous and weakens the underlying cause that they are fighting for. They are marginalizing themselves in the eyes of the majority of America.
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