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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Gun culture, a term coined by a communist.
    The term was popularized by noted eminent historian Richard Hofstadter in 1970. Some thirty years before, as a young man in 1938 and 39, he became infatuated with a woman who was a follower of communism who at the time was looked at as a bulwark against nazism. Over the next two years, he became disillusioned with communism and gave it up.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hofstadter

    To call him a communist based on his youthful dalliance with it would be the same as calling the late Catholic Pope a Nazi for a similar youthful experience.

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...0#.UXVPvuDO9Hg

    It is simply foolishness as well as demonization which serves no intellectual purpose other than a knee jerk attack at your perceived enemies.
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You didn't read very carefully then. I could find many in which they referred to this legislation as "gun grabbing".....not what you claim.
    All gun control is an incremental step to "gun grabbing." It may not be in your mind, but for sure it is with the major gun control nuts.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That would depend on the laws of your state. What do they say?
    No, it should not depend on the laws of the state, as the right to keep and bear arms is an inherent right guaranteed by the constitution. That a family member may have some psychological disorder should not have any effect what so ever.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Thank heaven we have a US Supreme Court to make sure that does not happen.
    And yet this very US Supreme Court stripped all of the rights to life of innocent babies in the womb. I don't trust them any further than I can throw them.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If that was true then expanded background checks would have passed months ago,you can't win elections on money alone. I seriously doubt that constituents in pro-2nd amendment states are telling their elected officials to support universal background checks except of a small minority. Maybe in California, New York, Massachusetts,Illinois and other anti-2nd amendment states that 93% of the constituents there are telling their elected to support universal background checks.
    It is not the "NRA" which has the power, or the money. It is the 5 million plus members who have the power and congress knows we tend to vote against idiots who pass gun control laws.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That is not what I am suggesting. Only that you judge them and their abilities properly and do not let yourself be worked into a state of unmerited paranoia about it.

    Your analogy is flawed in that it takes a majority to pass legislation (which is no easy task particularly when it comes to the Second Amendment) while it only takes a single nut to do the evil of Boston or Aurora or Sandy Hook. it is the fallacy of false equivalency.
    The issue is simple. None of the gun control laws have yet to eliminate or even reduce evil such as happened in Boston, Aurora or Sandy Hook. All gun control laws do is make it difficult for law abiding people to get a firearm to protect themselves from evil doers like the ones perpetrating Boston, Aurora or Sandy Hook type events, and they are all an increment to eventual confiscation of all honest firearms.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The poll that you are referring to asked "What is the MOST IMPORTANT problem facing America today".....gun control got 4%.
    I answered that question affirmatively too; so part of that 4% are like me, important because we have TOO MUCH OF IT ALREADY.

    The question posed that I am referring to is whether you favor universal background checks for gun purchases.
    No I am not for universal background checks.
    1. It is one more increment in the direction of confiscation
    2. It is not the governments business if I give my firearms to a friend or family member
    3. Background checks give the government too much information which can be used by someone in the chain of command to create a data bank of who owns what and where.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Ever heard of Constitutional case law? Yeah.....thought not. I could tell from the ignorance displayed in the post. See.....the SCOTUS takes cases and interprets the application of the Constitution to those cases. The resulting opinions are called "caselaw".
    And like in Roe v Wade, bad caselaw.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The wacko gun nuts were already in hyper paranoia mode.....that is the only mode they know how to operate it. Well....that and hyper paranoia hysterics. Oh my....."There coming after my guns!!!!!'.
    With gun control nuts out there incrementally chopping away at our 2nd amendment it is obvious that our concern is no paranoia, but rather justified.

    IE, it is not paranoia when someone is out to get you or you guns.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Here's another one you may require even more Kleenex to bear: The Senate passed a resolution against entering the UN gun control treaty. These are the US Senators who Voted Against a bill Preventing the UN Gun Ban | Crystal Coast Tea Party
    Thank God we are not joining in with the UN gun control nuts.

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