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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You did NOT point out any inconsistency. You simply attempted to employ the age old tactic that defended your own idiots by saying some of your enemies are also idiots. Such an assertion - while making you feel good about yourself and your allies - does nothing in any way shape or from to negate the truth of paranoia on the far right on this issue.
    I don't think it is paranoia at all when we have on record legislators proving across the spectrum that intentions behind legislation is designed to reach ends that are not what is provided in the actual legislation.
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't think it is paranoia at all when we have on record legislators proving across the spectrum that intentions behind legislation is designed to reach ends that are not what is provided in the actual legislation.
    I think all of us - of all stripes and persuasions - can find a few people who voice opinions that perhaps cause us serious concern. However, the kind of people you are talking about are the exceptions rather than the rule and have demonstrated no power at all to deliver on their wishes. Taking that into consideration, it is not at all rational to allow ones mind to be controlled or manipulated by a small number of people voicing extreme views which are going nowhere.
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I think all of us - of all stripes and persuasions - can find a few people who voice opinions that perhaps cause us serious concern. However, the kind of people you are talking about are the exceptions rather than the rule and have demonstrated no power at all to deliver on their wishes. Taking that into consideration, it is not at all rational to allow ones mind to be controlled or manipulated by a small number of people voicing extreme views which are going nowhere.
    Although intellectually that may very well be true, I for one, am not one to just wait to see if it happens, because frankly when it does happen, it is too late.
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Although intellectually that may very well be true, I for one, am not one to just wait to see if it happens, because frankly when it does happen, it is too late.
    I am not ready to have it happen either.
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    One then has to wonder why so many on the right seem to be permanently living at the intersection of Slippery Slope Street and Paranoia Place.
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You claimed you did not support gun bans. Not "complete gun ban". Not "ban on all guns". But "gun bans", full stop. You then claim you support some gun bans.

    You lied. You decieved. You were dishonest. Which fits with your bogus signature line and hollow hypocritical stance on civil rights.

    Everything else is you backpeddling trying to cover your tail.

    It is people like you that are the individuals behind this legislation and like you they can not be trusted, which is exactly why I'm happy to see it fail before it goes any farther.
    Disney and Haymarket both exemplify what I mean when I speak of left wing attempts to incrementally eliminate all our rights. There, "just a little gun control" is nothing more than "a little now, a little later and eventually we get the entire piece of gun control pie." I object to any gun control if for no other reason not to be incrementalized to death.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    POLL

    Is there anyone on this forum who does not believe it is the absolute intent of most Gun Control nuts to eliminate the private ownership of firearms?

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by dnsmith View Post
    POLL

    Is there anyone on this forum who does not believe it is the absolute intent of most Gun Control nuts to eliminate the private ownership of firearms?
    Barrack Obama is against concealed guns, as well as openly carrying guns so it seems with him, and like-minded politicians, that this war against the 2nd Amendment will continue. It's probably one of the easier issues to politicize, especially if children and distraught parents are brought into the debate.

    If he was to bring in some of the victims from Chicago, the community he organized, then perhaps a broader picture of the reality would appear. A white parent whose child was murdered is definitely in the minority.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Before all you Libtards bust a gut over this - READ THE BILL!!!!!

    S. 649: Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013


    Full Title - A bill to ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the national instant criminal background check system and require a background check for every firearm sale, and for other purposes.

    Full text @ Text of S. 649: Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013 (Placed on Calendar in the Senate version) - GovTrack.us

    I didn't read all of it but I get the idea why Senators rejected it is included in the provision for penalizing states for not fully implementing data bases and meshing them with the National Instant Criminal Background Check System

    I'm certain there are other goodies in there to further reduce individual rights.

    And Dingy Harry only voted against it so he can bring it up again!
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