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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No right is absolute. The Constitution just places stronger limitations of curtailment of any right that is fundamental.
    What I said was simple, an inherent right is stronger than a civil right granted by law. Absolute? Maybe not; but our right to keep and bear arms is as absolute as any right can be in the US. I absolutely will not give up my firearms peacefully.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    stop lying and stop with your ignorant and silly patronizing. Cuomo admitted CONFISCATION WAS ON THE TABLE. DIF admitted in 95 if she had the votes she would have pushed for CONFISCATION OF ALL THE WEAPONS banned by the AWB. FLORIO ordered CONFISCATION of guns that had been registered but later BANNED by the NJ AWB

    why do you continually lie about history?
    And how often has it occurred? Do you really believe that smoking one joint leads to heroin addiction? Not everything in life is a slippery slope.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What "Freedom" are you asking me to give up? Freedom to be free of a background check? Wow......next thing you know, we might have to go through a metal detector at the airport.
    I'm not asking you to give up anything, but any restriction in place is a de facto loss of freedom. My question was as to how many you're willing to live with and where would you place the limits of federal restrictions?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by dnsmith View Post
    What I said was simple, an inherent right is stronger than a civil right granted by law. Absolute? Maybe not; but our right to keep and bear arms is as absolute as any right can be in the US. I absolutely will not give up my firearms peacefully.
    That definitely makes more sense.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'm not asking you to give up anything, but any restriction in place is a de facto loss of freedom. My question was as to how many you're willing to live with and where would you place the limits of federal restrictions?
    No they aren't. We live with many restrictions in many aspects of our lives that don't curtail our freedoms. I fail to see how background checks are a "loss in freedom". Sorry....that is a huge stretch.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Riiiiiiight. Because our history is full of incidences where our government has come into your home to grab your guns and bibles. Okie dokie.
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No they aren't. We live with many restrictions in many aspects of our lives that don't curtail our freedoms. I fail to see how background checks are a "loss in freedom". Sorry....that is a huge stretch.
    And with each, you are less free. I never stated all restrictions curtailed freedoms. I asked which you were willing to give up?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Which exists entirely in your own head since by your own admission there is no such thing in that bill. Such fears of things which are not there are normally filed under the category of paranoia.
    Incrementalism is in the mind of every left winger who supports even "just a little" gun control. Daily Kos: How to Ban Guns: A step by step, long term process I don't believe any "progressive" who says, I don't want to eliminate private ownership of firearms."

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No they aren't. We live with many restrictions in many aspects of our lives that don't curtail our freedoms. I fail to see how background checks are a "loss in freedom". Sorry....that is a huge stretch.
    Loss of freedom is loss of choice. If you restrict my actions, you've restricted my freedom. And to do so, you need sound argument, proof, and data.
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    This whole situation was an exploitation of a tragedy. It was the President's, as well as other Dems, intent to move something through the Senate and have it go nowhere in the House to use in the 2014 election cycle. That's why the President was so angry last night. He just lost one of his aces n the hole...
    Hi Paul! I agree with that statement. If the bill had passed the democratically controlled senate we would have endured endless whining about the GOP house not passing it in the house. Politicizing all the way! Geaux Tigers!

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