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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The only interest government has is power.
    oh....I see......
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No. I understood it quite perfectly. The right to keep and bear arms is not absolute. That is just a fact. There are all kinds of weapons that are currently restricted.
    If that is your position then you would have to admit Obama and the liberals are weak and have lost their mandate

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    If that is your position then you would have to admit Obama and the liberals are weak and have lost their mandate
    No. Only that there are a lot of cowards in the Senate that haven't a backbone to stand up to the NRA and the gun lobby. But we've known that for a long time. Congress is full of spineless idiots who are afraid of their own shadow.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Again....just displaying that you don't know what you are talking about. If the right to possess weapons under the 2nd Amendment is absolute, how do you account for the fact that there are already weapons that are currently banned?
    because there are judges who were politicians first and did what their master told them to do

    can you find any proper delegation of power to the federal government supporting your claim that the federal government has that power

    it took 140 years and FDR to create that power



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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No. Only that there are a lot of cowards in the Senate that haven't a backbone to stand up to the NRA and the gun lobby. But we've known that for a long time. Congress is full of spineless idiots who are afraid of their own shadow.
    I feel the same way about timid gun haters who want the government (People with guns) to persecute and disarm other people with guns so as to make the cowards feel better about their own timidity



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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No. Only that there are a lot of cowards in the Senate that haven't a backbone to stand up to the NRA and the gun lobby. But we've known that for a long time. Congress is full of spineless idiots who are afraid of their own shadow.
    So the NRA is stronger than the President. Glad you admitted that. Maybe Obama and the liberals can actually try real bipartisanship. Until then, they lost.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I feel the same way about timid gun haters who want the government (People with guns) to persecute and disarm other people with guns so as to make the cowards feel better about their own timidity
    Take another deep breath TD. People aren't coming after your guns. Relax.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    So the NRA is stronger than the President. Glad you admitted that. Maybe Obama and the liberals can actually try real bipartisanship. Until then, they lost.
    In many ways Yes. That's one of the things that is wrong with this Country. Our Congress is so afraid of Special Interest Lobbies that they often vote against the will of the people and/or the interests of America because they lack the backbone to stand up for what is right.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Take another deep breath TD. People aren't coming after your guns. Relax.
    I was in ENgland right before Dunblane. Gun haters said the same thing there too. Same in NJ when they passed registration of "assault wepaons".

    part of the incremental strategy of banning guns is for gun haters to only support the "NEXT REASONABLE STEP"

    I suspect when people like me complained about the NYS limitations years ago, you denied that a ten round limit was a stepping stone to 7 round limits

    guess what-no one believes you or those who make such claims anymore. We have seen too many politicians demand more and more restrictions every time they can find enough blood to oil the path towards confiscation



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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No. Only that there are a lot of cowards in the Senate that haven't a backbone to stand up to the NRA and the gun lobby. But we've known that for a long time. Congress is full of spineless idiots who are afraid of their own shadow.
    Meh, I won't defend them because they're not really out for our rights and liberties, but rather their donors. But I do agree with the outcome. That was no compromise, and there is no reason to expect that sort of limitation to the free exercise of rights.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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