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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its obvious you see incremental gun banning as a proper strategy
    I would most certainly be in favor of more gun control than we have now.

    For example, I consider the desire to own or posses an assault rifle by a civilian as prima facie evidence that said individual is mentally unstable and should be barred from owning or possessing any kind of firearm.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Funny how that percent keeps getting bigger and bigger every time I see it lol.
    Last time I saw it, it was 103%, so support must be dropping if the 93% is accurate.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    [QUOTE=ttwtt78640;1061706224]The big lie, included in the OP quote:



    This was never in the original bill and I can find no amendment proposed to make it so. I have posted the link to the actual bill; note that the words internet, gun show or private sale are not even mentioned in it.

    The actual bill's opening description says it all:

    To ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the national instant criminal background check system and require a background check for every firearm sale, and for other purposes.

    Link to the real bill:

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...113s649pcs.pdf
    Note that When Reid read it from the Floor of the Senate that he called it Anti Gun Legislation. Recorded down for all of Posterity and Caught on Film too. To be Forever held within the Records of the Senate.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The big lie, included in the OP quote:



    This was never in the original bill and I can find no amendment proposed to make it so. I have posted the link to the actual bill; note that the words internet, gun show or private sale are not even mentioned in it.

    The actual bill's opening description says it all:



    Note that When Reid read it from the Floor of the Senate that he called it Anti Gun Legislation. Recorded down for all of Posterity and Caught on Film too. To be Forever held within the Records of the Senate.
    Yep. The actual bill, S. 649, was voted down yet the squeals from the losers were stating all sorts of alternate things had "really" occurred. The most amazing thing, IMHO, was that the bill, S. 649, contained $800 million in funding for getting more "bad folks" listed in the NICS database and extra funding for local "school security" yet ZERO allocation for any additional federal enforcement. I also assume that it was to be considered as "emergency" legislation since no "pay as you go" spending offsets were ever discussed either.
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Even 3 Democrats voted against this Fascist gun grabbing nonsense

    The American People want a growing economy and jobs. Not gun grabbing schemes from fascists like Obama and the Democrats
    Take a deep breath and think for a minute. Turn off your right-wing propaganda. No one is coming after your guns. You can stop the hysteria. Despite what FauxNews is telling you....there was nothing about gun grabbing schemes going on.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Ah yes, we dont agree with your interpretation, so we must be stupid. Next youll say its racism, no doubt.
    Its not a matter of "agreeing with interpretation". Its about educating yourself and having a minimal level of knowledge of how Supreme Court scrutiny works. You are simple dead wrong if you believe otherwise. Sorry. that is just the facts.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yes....I did. What part of "Do you believe it is the MOST important problem" do you not comprehend? Its a big leap to say that since people don't believe that it is the MOST important problem facing America that only 4% think it is important. NO.....what the poll says is that only 4% think it is the MOST important.......DOH!
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    The very sad reality is that until enough innocent blood washes over the nation - let us say an almost monthly occurrence of Sandy Hook or Aurora - the power and influence of the gun lobby will not be overcome. The gun lobby has been winning for a long time now and will continue to win.
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its not a matter of "agreeing with interpretation". Its about educating yourself and having a minimal level of knowledge of how Supreme Court scrutiny works. You are simple dead wrong if you believe otherwise. Sorry. that is just the facts.
    So we're stupid.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The very sad reality is that until enough innocent blood washes over the nation - let us say an almost monthly occurrence of Sandy Hook or Aurora - the power and influence of the gun lobby will not be overcome. The gun lobby has been winning for a long time now and will continue to win.
    Even then, the American Gun Owner is not going to blithly walk up to the police station with a bag full of firearms and turn them over simply because the Government doesn't like him or her having them. Nor is the American Gun Owner going to ever give the Government a list of those firearms. Nor are we going to allow the Government to oversee PRIVATE transactions that they have no need nor right to oversee.

    I understand that many in the gun control crowd see the actions of governments in England, Scotland, Australia, and even Canada as wonderful ideals to strive towards. What these individuals need to understand is that the American Gun Owner is not like the citizenry of those nations. We will not walk up and disarm ourselves like good little sheep. Nor will we allow the Government of this nation, which many of us trust little, if at all, to gather information on what we have in terms of firearms and other self-defense apperatus.

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