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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

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    no wonder they're losing



    Reid calls new legislation 'the anti-gun legislation' | The Daily Caller

    to quote rick perry, "oops"
    I saw that mincing turd Reid came out in favor of bans on semi autos and he wanted to start the slide towards banning anything than holds more than two shots. I hope that asshole loses his majority position and then his office. He needs to shed his kneepads and bib that he wears around Obama



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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I think when he was removed from the No-die list he also went off the no fly list
    Funny, but how many "good people" find themselves prevented from buying firearms? If they're wrongfully denied, how many are able to correct the situation?

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

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    Funny, but how many "good people" find themselves prevented from buying firearms? If they're wrongfully denied, how many are able to correct the situation?
    it depends for what reason and how much money they have. in some cases its as simple as having the same name and a similar birth date as a thug. I know several high level LE operatives who get denied or delayed because their files have a lot of security inquiries. I am worried about lots of vets getting denied if they have some mental trauma from serving even if its not indicative of "snapping"

    but the main arguments against the law that died are as follows

    1) the constitutional foundation for the law is dubious. even under the massively expanded FDR definition of interstate commerce its hard to justify the feds having power over second hand sales that are-by law-LIMITED TO INTRA state sales

    2) BTW if you actually engage in the profession or COMMERCE of selling guns you violate federal law by not having a license

    3) the law cannot be enforced. you see, dealers have to keep a record of what they buy, sell and receive and that means the Feds can easily check if they complied with the BGC rules. not so with private sellers who have no duty to keep such records or to be available for inspections without warrants.

    thus, many of us believe that the law was intended to "create a need" for such record keeping or registration

    4) none of the highly publicized tragedies were due to a lack of a BGC. many of us tire of the democrats using a tragedy to push laws that have no relationship to a problem



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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    chicago (youth on youth murder capital, home of arne duncan, obama's ed secty, who as ceo of chicago public schools couldn't get his kids to and from class alive---solid credentials for promotion in barry's bizarro world) tribune

    april 11

    the city that forces business to bring a bat to a gunfight

    Illinois — where politicians force law-abiding citizens to bring a bat to a gunfight.

    An amazing video released Wednesday that shows a Chicago shopkeeper fighting for his life should be a commercial for Second Amendment rights in this, the only state that doesn't allow citizens to carry a concealed handgun for protection.

    The video, posted by the Tribune's Breaking News Center, shows in vivid and frightening detail how armed thugs robbed a gift and sports store Tuesday in the Logan Square neighborhood.

    You can see the gunman demand the money. You see the store owner's brother-in-law with a gun to his head. You see the shots being fired, and the bat wielded by a wounded and desperate Luis Quizhpe, the 62-year-old proprietor who fought for his life.
    Store robbery video: In Illinois, the politicians, not the taxpayers, are protected - Chicago Tribune

    thugs are emboldened, politicians protected

    mr quizhpe survived

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    national journal, elite left, 9:41 eastern

    At Pivotal Point in Presidency, Obama Routed on Gun Control - NationalJournal.com

    routed

    can you deny it?

    "obama’s team took news of the defeat hard wednesday, with some advisers predicting that gun regulation won’t be revived"

    "it is hard for them to explain the failure of a measure supported by 90 percent of the public without making the president appear weak"

    "one senior obama associate who works outside the white house said on condition of anonymity, 'if we can’t get it done four months after sandy hook, how are we going to get it done any time in the next four years?'"

    “this is an unmitigated disaster”

    uh oh

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    for someone to discuss reasonable restrictions they have to be reasonable. Your posts demonstrate you are a hard core gun hater who wants to ban guns and harass gun owners every chance you can. Thus your concept of what is reasonable really has no merit to most of us who support gun rights
    You couldn't be more wrong. Sorry TD, but your are plain and simply wrong. I don't support gun bans. Take a deep breath......just because people support reasonable efforts to control gun violence like background checks, registration and waiting periods, doesn't mean that "They are coming for your guns". Again...take a breath....nobody is coming for your guns.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Is it all the way up to 93% now?

    Do you honestly believe that many senators voted against their constituents the year before elections? You've been drinking the kool-aid Dude.
    Pretty soon, it'll be the first poll in history to hit 100%. Funny thing is, I don't know anyone in favor of the bill. In New Jersey, no less. You would think that if those numbers were true, I'd be hard pressed to find anyone against the bill.

    You don't think the left is trying to mislead us again, do you?

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    national journal, elite left, 9:41 eastern

    At Pivotal Point in Presidency, Obama Routed on Gun Control - NationalJournal.com

    routed

    can you deny it?

    "obama’s team took news of the defeat hard wednesday, with some advisers predicting that gun regulation won’t be revived"

    "it is hard for them to explain the failure of a measure supported by 90 percent of the public without making the president appear weak"

    "one senior obama associate who works outside the white house said on condition of anonymity, 'if we can’t get it done four months after sandy hook, how are we going to get it done any time in the next four years?'"

    “this is an unmitigated disaster”

    uh oh
    Now we just need to make sure the MS Media carries Obama's Failure all Weekend long. So he keeps hearing the Word.....Failed. I know he don't think this is good for himself. But in the Long Run it will be good for him. Put that ego of his in check. Now lets hope he understands that he was stopped from breaking or getting around the Second.

    This is a Major Defeat for him.....Stunning and Stinging!

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    national journal, elite left, 9:41 eastern

    At Pivotal Point in Presidency, Obama Routed on Gun Control - NationalJournal.com

    routed

    can you deny it?

    "obama’s team took news of the defeat hard wednesday, with some advisers predicting that gun regulation won’t be revived"

    "it is hard for them to explain the failure of a measure supported by 90 percent of the public without making the president appear weak"

    "one senior obama associate who works outside the white house said on condition of anonymity, 'if we can’t get it done four months after sandy hook, how are we going to get it done any time in the next four years?'"

    “this is an unmitigated disaster”

    uh oh
    Getting more fodder to bury Republicans in 2014 is not a defeat. The Reps. that voted against it will have to face their constituents and tell them why.
    You want this fight and you will get it.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    93% of Americans are in favor of background checks. Sad that 46 Senators lack a backbone to stand up to the NRA and the wacko gun lobby.
    Gallup: Only 4% of Americans Think Gun Control is an Important Problem | CNS News



    Maybe people like background checks, but they don't like liberals messing with our guns.
    Last edited by Ray410; 04-18-13 at 02:58 AM.

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