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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    So whats the plan now for you Americans? Wait and see and talk about it again after the next school shooting?
    What are you folks going to do about your violent crime rate that is THREE times as high as the US?

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Open up a dictionary, learn english, and learn logic.
    LOL...it takes more than a dictionary and speaking English to become a Supreme Court Justice my friend....but it doesn't mean that you shouldn't stop trying to educate yourself sometime, especially if you want to speak intelligently about a topic.

    Here is a VERY basic start to understanding Constitutional analysis. You'll need to take it quite a few steps further if you truly want to engage in an informed conversation:
    Strict scrutiny - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Pick up a Constitutional Law Textbook....any of them that are used at any law school in the United States and you might learn something. You might actually find out a thing or two about Constitutional Law and the analysis that the SCOTUS undergoes when reviewing laws to see whether they pass Constitutional muster.
    Yawn..I'm well aware of how justices claim english and intent don't matter.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Absolutely. But that's something that a lot of the people on this site do not understand. They think ANY restriction automatically is unconstitutional. They refuse to be educated.
    That's when it becomes a question of if it is actually reasonable or not. Plus too many "reasonable" laws can effectively get rid of a Right or at least make that Right essentially useless to be on the books.
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    That's when it becomes a question of if it is actually reasonable or not. Plus too many "reasonable" laws can effectively get rid of a Right or at least make that Right essentially useless to be on the books.
    In extreme instances, rarely the norm. And as to your first point, you are absolutely correct. The exact question that the SCOTUS would take up on a challenge is the "reasonableness" of the restriction and the state interest involved. That said, I doubt highly that things like background checks, registration and waiting periods would have much difficulty passing Constitutional muster. Things like an assault weapon ban would be a closer case.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL...it takes more than a dictionary and speaking English to become a Supreme Court Justice my friend....but it doesn't mean that you shouldn't stop trying to educate yourself sometime, especially if you want to speak intelligently about a topic.

    Here is a VERY basic start to understanding Constitutional analysis. You'll need to take it quite a few steps further if you truly want to engage in an informed conversation:
    Strict scrutiny - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Yawn...give me something I don't already know. How about where there is an opening in an absolute statement. Enlighten me on how that makes sense.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Let's face facts. This was all kabuki. What I don't understand is why the Dems forced the Senate to kill it rather than the House.
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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yawn...give me something I don't already know. How about where there is an opening in an absolute statement. Enlighten me on how that makes sense.
    You obviously DON'T already know, because if you did, you wouldn't be making the statements that you have. They clearly displayed that you have little to no idea of what goes on when the SCOTUS takes up a case.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You obviously DON'T already know, because if you did, you wouldn't be making the statements that you have. They clearly displayed that you have little to no idea of what goes on when the SCOTUS takes up a case.
    Lol! Did you ever wager I'm challenging them on their bull****? English matters and when someone makes an absolute statement it is ABSOLUTE! There is no way around that. If I write a contract barring a certain activity it is BARRED. There is no doubt about it or way around it. It is BARRED absolutely. Learn logic.

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    Re: The Senate has defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on fire

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    Let's face facts. This was all kabuki. What I don't understand is why the Dems forced the Senate to kill it rather than the House.
    The Republicans snookered them, but you won't hear the media suggest that Democrats got outsmarted at their own game.

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