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Nation's Biggest Movie Theater Chain Cuts Workweek, Blaming ObamaCare

Obama should have forseen that companies would use Obama care as an excuse to screw over their workers. Historically businesses trample anyone and anything they can in order to make a dollar. I am not too surprised, politicians saying they are doing something to help the workers classes and instead it benefits businesses. Nothing new here at all.
 
OVER MY DEAD BODY!!!!, thank you very much. Even if I didn't get the chance to die opposing it, I would die BECAUSE of it.

ok.


Healthcare is NOT a right, Helix. Never has been and never should be. It's a privilege for those who are capable of paying for it, or who are valued enough by their employers to earn it as a benefit. As for joining the union..... Mine is currently in contract negotiations and we've been told the company wants US to take a much bigger bite of the healthcare apple BECAUSE of the ACA. No thanks.

it's becoming a right, and that's a good thing. i wouldn't want to live in the gated communities if we cut off health care to everyone who couldn't pay.

and yes, i know, you would defend yourself and go down in a bloody blaze of glory, and that you will refuse any health care once you hit 65 or something, so save your typing energy.
 
Business owners acting in a logical, rational, predictable way that best furthers the businesses goals and needs in an effort to deal with regulations placed upon them by the government.
 
it's becoming a right, and that's a good thing.

Why is that a good thing? Who is going to pay for those services? Are we to expect medical personnel to give their services away for free or are you expecting the taxpayers to pick up the tab? Why is it that more and more the American people turn to the Government when they want something rather than turning to themselves, their family, and friends in the time of need?

....and that you will refuse any health care once you hit 65 or something,.....

You are correct that I will refuse ANY/ALL Government paid for health care, regardless of age. If I can't get it/pay for it for myself, then I don't need it or don't deserve it, This whole idea that the Government has some responsibility to pay for ANY healthcare for non-military or Government employed personnel is ridiculous.
 
but certainly not unforeseen

Amen. This was discussed prior to the Obamacare vote.

Quite honestly, it is impossible to feel any sympathy for the people being harmed by this as they likely voted for Obama in the most recent election.
 
Why is that a good thing? Who is going to pay for those services? Are we to expect medical personnel to give their services away for free or are you expecting the taxpayers to pick up the tab? Why is it that more and more the American people turn to the Government when they want something rather than turning to themselves, their family, and friends in the time of need?

it's a good thing because we are a first world country that doesn't let people die in the streets. it's a good thing because withholding treatment from those who couldn't pay in some financial Darwinistic fantasy would result in massive social unrest. it's also a good thing because the way things are set up now, we're already paying for uninsured treatment in the most inefficient way imaginable.



You are correct that I will refuse ANY/ALL Government paid for health care, regardless of age. If I can't get it/pay for it for myself, then I don't need it or don't deserve it, This whole idea that the Government has some responsibility to pay for ANY healthcare for non-military or Government employed personnel is ridiculous.

well, as a fellow human being, i hope that you change your mind. that's on you, though.

and yes, i already know that you won't change your mind and that your next reply will contain your plan to kill yourself when the time comes. i'd also discourage that. you're getting married. it's not just about you and your inflexible opinions anymore.
 
it's a good thing because we are a first world country that doesn't let people die in the streets. it's a good thing because withholding treatment from those who couldn't pay in some financial Darwinistic fantasy would result in massive social unrest. it's also a good thing because the way things are set up now, we're already paying for uninsured treatment in the most inefficient way imaginable.

In terms of dying in the streets.... that's what these people are supposed to have family and friends for. I'm not so sure that I'd be all that concerned about social unrest from people who can't even take care of their own medical needs. The answer to the fiscal component of the problem is very simple.... rescind President Reagan's ridiculous requirement that hospitals must waste their own resources on those who cannot pay. Social Welfare should be a private issue, not a governmental one.

well, as a fellow human being, i hope that you change your mind. that's on you, though.

It's not likely to change Helix, and you know that. I believe that quality of life is more important than quantity of it and that my Principles override everything.

and yes, i already know that you won't change your mind and that your next reply will contain your plan to kill yourself when the time comes. i'd also discourage that.

It's not a matter of wanting to kill myself so much as a means to deal with the eventuality that is pretty much assured at this point. Death is not something to be feared. It's simply a new beginning.

you're getting married. it's not just about you and your inflexible opinions anymore.

You're right. It's about US and OUR inflexible opinions now.
 
Obama should have forseen that companies would use Obama care as an excuse to screw over their workers. Historically businesses trample anyone and anything they can in order to make a dollar. I am not too surprised, politicians saying they are doing something to help the workers classes and instead it benefits businesses. Nothing new here at all.

It doesn't BENEFIT business..

Now they have to go through the process of hiring more people in order to work them at lower hours..... not to mention hiring the extra legal help to ensure they are doing everything within laws and regulations... and all those other "consultants" they will require to implement these changes efficiently.
 
I have a feeling a lot of businesses are going to start using the Obamacare excuse whether it's warranted or not. Unless they have a Union to blame all their problems on.
 
Business owners acting in a logical, rational, predictable way that best furthers the businesses goals and needs in an effort to deal with regulations placed upon them by the government.

Exactly.

Everyone claims businesses can afford to lose profits in order to provide for their employees because its the right thing to do.


Yet, when they lose profits, and then they lose investors because they lose profits, and then they end up having to lay people off because they don't have enough operating funds to continue..........well... same ****ing result.... the little man is still screwed.
 
I have a feeling a lot of businesses are going to start using the Obamacare excuse whether it's warranted or not. Unless they have a Union to blame all their problems on.

It's called operating within a margin. You see, the private sector has to actually make a profit unlike your beloved federal government.

We made the same decision at our company. We cut 8 percent of our workforce, from 377 to 347, just to cover the initial projected estimated cost of Obamacare. It looks like we might have to cut more as things are becoming clearer.
 
Obama should have forseen that companies would use Obama care as an excuse to screw over their workers. Historically businesses trample anyone and anything they can in order to make a dollar. I am not too surprised, politicians saying they are doing something to help the workers classes and instead it benefits businesses. Nothing new here at all.

What a juvenile understanding of business. LOL

So, why would businesses hire people in the first place? Why bother if the whole reason is just to "screw them over" and fire them?

Sounds like someone who's been fired from a few jobs for underperforming and won't take responsibility to me.
 
It's called operating within a margin. You see, the private sector has to actually make a profit unlike your beloved federal government.

See besides the fact that you are incapable of seeing anything outside of "Conservative v. Communist" there's a lot of people with a lot of different opinions. Keep the BS to yourself.

We made the same decision at our company. We cut 8 percent of our workforce, from 377 to 347, just to cover the initial projected estimated cost of Obamacare. It looks like we might have to cut more as things are becoming clearer.

Some of it is legitimate. It'll still be used as a BS excuse no matter what because the right will eat it up.
 
What a juvenile understanding of business. LOL

So, why would businesses hire people in the first place? Why bother if the whole reason is just to "screw them over" and fire them?

Sounds like someone who's been fired from a few jobs for underperforming and won't take responsibility to me.

Yeah, workers have never ever been mistreated. :roll:

Sounds like someone who just buys whatever as long as it comes with red Kool-Aid.
 
See besides the fact that you are incapable of seeing anything outside of "Conservative v. Communist" there's a lot of people with a lot of different opinions. Keep the BS to yourself.



Some of it is legitimate. It'll still be used as a BS excuse no matter what because the right will eat it up.

In other words, you've got nothing.
 
Yeah, workers have never ever been mistreated. :roll:

Sounds like someone who just buys whatever as long as it comes with red Kool-Aid.

Which has nothing to do with nothing in this discussion.

Learn an iota about business TODAY, and get back to us.
 
In other words, I know that people will glom on to any excuse that works.

BS.

Anyone who wants to work hard and be successful can and does. The rest get left behind. And vote Democrat and bitch. And spend all their waking moments trying to punish and steal from the ones paying their freight.
 
Just curious. What was the excuse businesses used when they pretty much all shipped their manufacturing to China?

People wanted cheaper goods.
 
why are the conservatives all of a sudden worried about the "little working man" and not jumping for joy that the movie chain will now be making more of a bigger profit.?
bizarro world? indeed

Companies can't be successful without effective employees. Employees, little and large, are critically important to companies. Why would you think otherwise?
 
Not companies wanting more profit?
Good Lord. Companies are all about more profits, and the consuming public is always about cheaper goods. It's both. The reason companies moved production to China is because it's too damn expensive to produce common items here. Bear in mind that we are very much a society in which most daily utilized goods are considered disposable.
 
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