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    Re: Nation's Biggest Movie Theater Chain Cuts Workweek, Blaming ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    But it is too expensive to produce, say, a stainless steel water bottle here. Such a product from China is usually not nearly as well made as the US version, but the difference in cost is prohibitive for such an inconsequential item. It cuts both ways. Are there more profits associated with cheaper production costs and higher sales volume? Decidedly yes. Are average consumers able to afford and fuel the higher volume? Again, yes. We are no longer an industrial/manufacturing- heavy society.
    Again, I don't disagree with you here. Right or wrong, we are no longer an industrial/manufacturing-heavy society.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Nation's Biggest Movie Theater Chain Cuts Workweek, Blaming ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Of course companies want more profit. Profit is the sole reason companies exist and if they can shave a percentage of labor cost significant enough to justify the costs of relocating manufacturing, they can and will do it. Every single time.
    I would not say every single time. Some companies never shipped their manufacturing to China, mainly because they didn't want their high-end products to turn into crap. So, instead of gaining a bigger profit margin, they kept things status quo. But--admittedly--they are far and few between. There seems to be an itty-bitty bit of a swing towards companies using the "made in the USA/Canada" angle to promote their business, since "green thinking" is starting to pick up a bit of steam.


    The truth of the matter is that the vast majority of these manufacturing jobs shipped overseas are low skilled positions most often filled by 2 different types of people. The first type of person that works in a job like this is young and ambitious. They are using the job to gain experience to be qualified for something better down the road. The second type are undereducated, low skilled, low IQ types who are not and will never be qualified for anything more. I've worked in manufacturing and I know exactly what I'm talking about. The people there all think they're worth $30+ per hour but in reality the factory rolls on just fine turning over a new crop of minimum wage type employees every couple of months.
    Works in China!

    The days of union wage manufacturing are over. We buy that crap from China and Mexico now. If it's any consolation, you can take solace in the fact that as the economies of these countries grow(on the backs of these low skilled laborers) they will run into the same problems that we have here only this time there won't be any place to ship these jobs off to. Then, maybe, you'll see a return of high priced union manufacturing jobs here... and then we all get to pay more for the same crap.
    I don't see the fine lining. Then again, I don't live in China. But I do know that all the manufacturing is ruining the environment, people are killing themselves over their slave-like jobs and are starting to push back. I am sure in another 30-50 years or so, we'll be buying our cheap trinkets from some destitute country in Africa, and in the process, ruin their environment, too.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Nation's Biggest Movie Theater Chain Cuts Workweek, Blaming ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I don't see the fine lining. Then again, I don't live in China. But I do know that all the manufacturing is ruining the environment, people are killing themselves over their slave-like jobs and are starting to push back. I am sure in another 30-50 years or so, we'll be buying our cheap trinkets from some destitute country in Africa, and in the process, ruin their environment, too.
    You just touched on another reason why so many manufacturers are looking to places like China and Mexico. They used to be able to get away with all sorts of stuff here in the states but those days are long gone. Regulations regarding industrial waste processing and discharge are incredibly strict and staying in compliance with the multiple agencies that regulate and monitor this activity costs a fortune. Another in a long line of unintended consequences.

    Yea!!! We passed laws which dramatically reduced pollution!!!

    Boo!!! It costs so much to stay in compliance that it isn't worth producing anything here anymore.


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    Re: Nation's Biggest Movie Theater Chain Cuts Workweek, Blaming ObamaCare

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    But but but Obama guaranteed that if you like the healthcare you have, nothing in this bill will stop you from keeping it.
    What he didn't say is, even if you manage to keep it, you can't afford to use it.

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    Re: Nation's Biggest Movie Theater Chain Cuts Workweek, Blaming ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Pete, what you need to understand is that the United States is not Europe or the EU. This nation was founded and grown by people who wanted to get away from Europe and thinge European. Like Socialism, for example. To that end this nation's systems and society were founded on the ideal of PERSONAL Responsibility, not GOVERNMENTAL Nannydom. It has NEVER been the place of the US Government to have ANY involvement in healthcare. In fact, President Reagan's bill forcing hospitals to treat those who cannot pay is one of the greatest signs that he is NOT the grand Conservative that many still make him out to be. Instead, he was simply the same bumbling Liberal Democrat that he has always been. Yes, most of us get our healthcare through our employers. Most of us also don't plan our careers as movie theater managers. Think little, get little. Think big, get big.
    Yep... we took many of what the other nations considered dregs, and these people helped make this nation the greatest nation in the world. Because the system they were operating under allowed them to be free.

    You would think the Europeans would learn something from this, but noooooo... a massive portion of the EU population are ignorant about the greatest and most successful experiment in the history of mankind.

    We were also quite the pacifist nation until the Europeans decided they wanted to kill each other by the millions.

    We not only stepped in twice, we bailed out Europe and set the foundation for freedom amongst the tribes. Then... when the Balkans were afire... in your own backyard... you folks couldn't get the job done so we had to step in again.

    We understand your inferiority complex, and enjoy it when we elect weakling socialists like Carter, Clinton and Obama.

    Now Pete... how about answering the question I posed to you after your inane statements earlier?
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    Re: Nation's Biggest Movie Theater Chain Cuts Workweek, Blaming ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    You just touched on another reason why so many manufacturers are looking to places like China and Mexico. They used to be able to get away with all sorts of stuff here in the states but those days are long gone. Regulations regarding industrial waste processing and discharge are incredibly strict and staying in compliance with the multiple agencies that regulate and monitor this activity costs a fortune. Another in a long line of unintended consequences.

    Yea!!! We passed laws which dramatically reduced pollution!!!

    Boo!!! It costs so much to stay in compliance that it isn't worth producing anything here anymore.


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    I think the literal poison is worse than the figurative one.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Nation's Biggest Movie Theater Chain Cuts Workweek, Blaming ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Again, I don't disagree with you here. Right or wrong, we are no longer an industrial/manufacturing-heavy society.
    The sad thing is we could be, most of the items machined in Canada and the U.S. are still some of the best quality found globally, but because of inflated wages it's impossible to make complex refined goods with parts from our countries exclusively. I look at the things that fail most on vehicles(I'm a gear head) and they usually have Made in China or Made in Mexico on them, the standards in those countries are suspect as well as the training but they are cheap. I'm not saying all worker protections need to be reigned in, but there has to be some give on the labor side.
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    Re: Nation's Biggest Movie Theater Chain Cuts Workweek, Blaming ObamaCare

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    consequences unintended, it may be

    but certainly not unforeseen
    I don't think it has anything to do with the healthcare act and everything to do with the continual decline in movie-going.

    It's expensive as hell - overall, it's a poorly managed concept if they think that never changing is going to keep bringing in the business.
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    Re: Nation's Biggest Movie Theater Chain Cuts Workweek, Blaming ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I don't think it has anything to do with the healthcare act and everything to do with the continual decline in movie-going.

    It's expensive as hell - overall, it's a poorly managed concept if they think that never changing is going to keep bringing in the business.
    Those adjustments were made long ago.

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    Re: Nation's Biggest Movie Theater Chain Cuts Workweek, Blaming ObamaCare

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I don't think it has anything to do with the healthcare act and everything to do with the continual decline in movie-going.

    It's expensive as hell - overall, it's a poorly managed concept if they think that never changing is going to keep bringing in the business.
    That's even more reason to have more part timers. If the artificial standard for benefits is set to 30 hours with full time being 40 for everything else then it makes sense to limit employee benefits/hours. It's not optimal for anyone but in the long run overhead comes out in the plus column. If there are less sales there is less of a profit margin, but if you bring prices up then there are even less sales so it's a catch 22 and I can see why more companies are limiting hours. It doesn't do anything but hurt the employee's wallets but I don't see many other choices.
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