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Sen. Roger Wicker (R-MS) receives letter testing positive for ricin

Re: Envelope tests positive for ricin at Washington mail facility

The media silence is curious. I believe the government has recognized pushing for publicity on this isn't a good thing.

From CNN:

Washington (CNN) -- An envelope that tested positive for the deadly poison ricin was intercepted Tuesday afternoon at the U.S. Capitol's off-site mail facility in Washington, congressional and law enforcement sources tell CNN.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said he was told the letter was addressed to the office of Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Mississippi. A laboratory in Maryland confirmed the presence of ricin after an initial field tests indicated the poison was present, Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Terrance Gainer said.

The letter had a Memphis, Tennessee, postmark and no return address, Gainer wrote in an e-mail to senators and aides.

Sen. Claire McCaskill told reporters after a briefing for lawmakers that a suspect has already been identified in the incident, but a knowledgeable source said no one was in custody Tuesday night.

Wicker, the junior senator from Mississippi, has been assigned a protective detail, according to a law enforcement source.

Envelope tests positive for ricin at Washington mail facility - CNN.com

Not good.
 
Get real. They were found buried 10 years in sand. Take after GW Bush and get over the lie that was WMD's in Iraq hysteria.

Where do you get your information from, Saturday Night Live, Comedy Central or MSNBC ? :2rofll:


Mustard Gases:

<" Iraq also began to produce sulphur mustard blister gas (HD) in the early 1980s, and by 1983 was able to employ it in chemical munitions against Iran. The primary effect of mustard gas is skin and eye blistering and lung irritation. Heavy exposure to an aerosol of mustard gas causes the lungs to fill with fluid and "drown" the victim. Mustard gas has a low death rate; generally only 2 to 3 percent of its victims perish.

Iraq initially told UNSCOM that 3,080 tons of mustard gas had been produced, but in 1995 Iraq reduced this amount to 2,850 tons. UNSCOM found Iraq's mustard gas to be at least 80% pure and determined that it could be stored for long periods of time, both in bulk and in weaponized form. In its distilled form, mustard gas has a long life, and can be stockpiled for decades. It is relatively easy to produce and load into munitions. Iraq admits filling some 550 artillery shells with mustard gas but says it misplaced them shortly after the first Gulf War "<


Nerve Gas: Sarin and Tabun

>" Iraq moved up to producing the nerve gases sarin (GB) and tabun (GA) in 1984. These gases are highly toxic compounds that can penetrate the body either through contact with skin or eyes, or by inhalation. Just a few droplets will kill within minutes if inhaled or within hours if absorbed through the skin. The initial effects depend on the amount of contact with the agent and are almost immediate. Chemical nerve agents tend to have little or no incubation or latent period in the body. These agents act by attacking the central nervous system, causing rapid paralysis, respiratory failure and death by asphyxiation.

According to Iraq, the sarin and tabun it first produced was of poor quality. It was unstable, and the effectiveness of the agents diminished quickly after production. Iraq claimed that its production methods were later changed to eliminate the stabilization problem. Iraq argued that the tabun it produced was of such poor quality that Iraq turned its research, development and production effort to prolonging the viability of sarin instead.

Iraq adopted the "binary" method of weaponization, in which the components of sarin gas are stored separately until use, when they are mixed. The components of sarin are DF 2 and the alcohols cyclohexanol and isoproponal. Iraq manufactured DF 2 with a purity of 95%, and imported alcohols of 100% purity, so the detonation of its munitions could be expected to yield relatively pure sarin.

At first, Iraq told UNSCOM that it had produced an estimated 250 tons of tabun and 812 tons of sarin. In 1995, Iraq changed its estimates and reported it had produced only 210 tons of tabun and 790 tons of sarin. Thus, it is still uncertain how much tabun and sarin Iraq actually manufactured. "<
 
I disagree. It's not so much the #'s killed or injured. They do matter to some extent, but even more important is the spectacle.

Perhaps we're discussing two different things to some extent: the desire to terrify and the desire to create spectacle. Perhaps it's not so much a terrorist as an attention whore that's to blame. It will be interesting to see who done it and why.
 
Blowed OFF, not blowed UP...lol!

Was it The Big Red One where the guy got his ball blown off, the guy in his squad throws the ball away and tells him that is why he has two of them?
 
Perhaps we're discussing two different things to some extent: the desire to terrify and the desire to create spectacle. Perhaps it's not so much a terrorist as an attention whore that's to blame. It will be interesting to see who done it and why.

I don't see them as mutually exclusive, particularly if there's a political motive to this.

If the point is to scare people, then publicity is important, and a spectacular attack will get more coverage than one that is less spectacular. If people don't hear about it, then they can't be terrified. Also, the repetition reinforces the terror.

However, I don't rule out the possibility of a "lone wolf" who's getting off on the attention. At this point, that is a distinct possibility
 
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Re: Envelope tests positive for ricin at Washington mail facility

The media silence is curious. I believe the government has recognized pushing for publicity on this isn't a good thing.

It's on every freaking network, what on earth are you on about?
 
If you fail to learn the lessons of history...

I think whoever did this is positioning themselves to be a future confidant, mover & shaker for a Democrat/Socialist presidential nominee.
Who knows... being a "progressive" party this individual just might become a future cabinet member... or Tzar.

Obama's terrorist movers & shakers:
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If you fail to learn the lessons of history...

I think whoever did this is positioning themselves to be a future confidant, mover & shaker for a Democrat/Socialist presidential nominee.
Who knows... being a "progressive" party this individual just might become a future cabinet member... or Tzar.

...QUOTE]

Or a "Distinguished Professor" in an institution of higher learning ... which kinda tells you what shape the educational system is in and what kind of people have been running it.
And, oh no small.jpg, don't get me started on what kind of people get elected to high office.
 
If you fail to learn the lessons of history...

I think whoever did this is positioning themselves to be a future confidant, mover & shaker for a Democrat/Socialist presidential nominee.
Who knows... being a "progressive" party this individual just might become a future cabinet member... or Tzar.

Obama's terrorist movers & shakers:
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Didn't Obama's friends in your picture do the same thing the Boston bomber did this week?
 
Didn't Obama's friends in your picture do the same thing the Boston bomber did this week?

Yes... they... did. They are terrorists of the Boston Bombing ilk.

Obviously for Obama some acts of terror are actually acceptable. Now I can hear Democrats/Socialists screaming at their computers... "how dare he say that!". Folks, if terrorism is vile, and it is beyond vile, you do not ever want to be associated with it and especially personally on a first name basis with the terrorists unless you have sympathies for them and their behavior, or you are a professional and it is your job to destroy them so as to protect society. As Ayers has recently admitted, he and Obama had quite the relationship.

Obama will forever been known as the president who got political assistance and his political start in the house of a homegrown terrorist. Hanging with terrorists, using them to make it up the Democratic/Socialist Party ladder is part of their history. Only now does it begin to sink in for many what this meant back in 2007. How sick and power hungry one can be to take the Bigots, Racists and Terrorists... Ayers... Wright route.

Really... what person here would want any member of their family to associate with known terrorists. The left celebrates these scum, and our president worked with and used these scum to climb the ranks of the Democrat/Socialist party.

"Any time bombs are used to target innocent civilians it is an act of terror."
Barack Hussein Obama
 
Yes... they... did. They are terrorists of the Boston Bombing ilk.

Obviously for Obama some acts of terror are actually acceptable. Now I can hear Democrats/Socialists screaming at their computers... "how dare he say that!". Folks, if terrorism is vile, and it is beyond vile, you do not ever want to be associated with it and especially personally on a first name basis with the terrorists unless you have sympathies for them and their behavior, or you are a professional and it is your job to destroy them so as to protect society. As Ayers has recently admitted, he and Obama had quite the relationship.

Obama will forever been known as the president who got political assistance and his political start in the house of a homegrown terrorist. Hanging with terrorists, using them to make it up the Democratic/Socialist Party ladder is part of their history. Only now does it begin to sink in for many what this meant back in 2007. How sick and power hungry one can be to take the Ayers... Wright route.

Really... what person here would want any member of their family to associate with known terrorists. The left celebrates these scum, and our president worked with and used these scum to climb the ranks of the Democrat/Socialist party.

"Any time bombs are used to target innocent civilians it is an act of terror."
Barack Hussein Obama

It is utterly amazing Obama could hang with bigots, race baiters and terrorists and the press and the Democrat party did nothing. With the knowledge we had... Obama shouldn't have been elected head of the dog catcher's union.


We do not know the identity of the culprit yet so stop jumping to conclusions.
 
We do know that Bill Ayers bombed police buildings, and he's a close friend of Obama.

And did you know that **** didn't stick 5 years ago so why would it stick now?

What has Bill Ayers got to do with the Boston bombing?
 
And did you know that **** didn't stick 5 years ago so why would it stick now?

What has Bill Ayers got to do with the Boston bombing?

It happened. Everyone KNOWS he was involved. And the point is, it's really no different than the bombing in Boston.

It's ironic to hear a president speaking about terrorism when he launched his political career in Bill Ayers' living room.
 
Was he ever convicted for it. And if he was did he serve his sentence in prison.

No, because the police botched the investigation and he got off on the technicality of inadmissable evidence. It was clear he was directly involved.
 
No, because the police botched the investigation and he got off on the technicality of inadmissable evidence. It was clear he was directly involved.

He was never convicted, so what proof is there that he was involved? Where did the police "botch" their investigation?
 
He was never convicted, so what proof is there that he was involved? Where did the police "botch" their investigation?

There was a MOUNTAIN of evidence that he was involved. He got off on pure technicalities. Police used warrantless wiretaps, which were ruled inadmissable, that had him admitting to it right there.

He was actually quoted as saying he wished the WUO - which he led - would conduct more bombings at the time. Those were his words.
 
And did you know that **** didn't stick 5 years ago so why would it stick now?

What has Bill Ayers got to do with the Boston bombing?

Bill Ayers was a domestic terrorist who used bombs too.

You see... back in 2007 there were many of us who found the Ayers/Obama friendship beyond vile because Obama has a relationship with a domestic terrorist. It should have disqualified Obama from running for any political office.

Of course... the press and their baked brain followers made all manner of defense of Obama.

Obviously Obama has sympathies for some terrorists... so long as they are useful in his circles... and Ayers was useful, as he assisted Obama up the political ladder in Chicago (which should beg the question... what type of fecking party is The Democrat Party?)

If Obama has no sympathies for terrorists, how could he come within miles of that scumbag. You know... you and your ilk showed photos of Rumsfeld in his capacity as a representative of the US Government with Saddam Hussein as the US tried to neutralize Iran... but NOWHERE do we see you leftists decry the fact Obama was associated with a domestic bomber. A Timothy McVeigh type character.

And when it comes to terrorists... Republicans don't tolerate them... ever. The Democrats don't seem to be too bothered by the relationship.

Of course Jet, I do not expect you to understand any of this.

Tell me Jet... how do you defend a relationship with a domestic terrorist?
 
There was a MOUNTAIN of evidence that he was involved. He got off on pure technicalities. Police used warrantless wiretaps, which were ruled inadmissable, that had him admitting to it right there.

He was actually quoted as saying he wished the WUO - which he led - would conduct more bombings at the time. Those were his words.

And I ask again: what mountains of evidence are you talking about and how much did it relate to what he was accused of?

Is there any proof you can cite that directly links him to any of the crimes he is supposedly accused of?
 
There was a MOUNTAIN of evidence that he was involved. He got off on pure technicalities. Police used warrantless wiretaps, which were ruled inadmissable, that had him admitting to it right there.

He was actually quoted as saying he wished the WUO - which he led - would conduct more bombings at the time. Those were his words.

And those words were published in the NY Times the day of or the day before 911.
 
And I ask again: what mountains of evidence are you talking about and how much did it relate to what he was accused of?

Is there any proof you can cite that directly links him to any of the crimes he is supposedly accused of?

This is what happens when the press serves as a propagandist machine and the electorate lacks intellectual curiosity or honesty... ignorance abounds.

Ayers admitted he was guilty... saying from his own terrorist yap... "Guilty as sin, free as a bird."

In 1980 Ayers and Dohrn surrendered to law-enforcement authorities, but all charges against them were later dropped due to an “improper surveillance” technicality -- government authorities had failed to get a warrant for some of their surveillance. Said Ayers regarding this stroke of good fortune: “Guilty as sin, free as a bird. America is a great country.”

Bill Ayers - Discover the Networks
 
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