• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

Last week's conservative outrage: "Biden went to Europe and his normally priced security cost a whole bunch of taxpayer money! Shame on the Obama Administration!"
This week's conservative outrage: "Biden didn't go to Europe! Shame on the Obama Administration!"
 
Exactly! as i have said it before, and i'll say it again, if Obama discovered a cure for cancer, the cons would still bitch and moan over it.

O hasn't discovered a cure for cancer, but he HAS made himself a serial snubber of the U.K. which, last I checked, is one of our closest allies.
 
The curd gassing thing is an environmentalist plot of recent invention. Eat your bean curds and shut up about Churchill, Skippy.


Reality jarring with your mythology Skipinder? The people he gassed were Kurds with a "K", The ones you were so upset about when Saddam did it. (with his US supplied gas)
 
Considering all the events currently ongoing, I think it's pretty much a non-issue.

Americans might notice which of our allies decide to snub the future commemorations of Presidents Carter or Bush.
 
Why DO we keep insulting the U.K.?

It's not an insult. I just think griping about not having a rep of the US government there isn't a major issue. Personally, if a president of the US died and the UK didn't send anyone to the funeral I wouldn't be too offended, especially if the UK just suffered a domestic attack.
 
Just an FYI, Obama will be at the memorial for the Boston Marathon on Thursday while Thatcher's funeral is on Wednesday, now I don't know the times of each of these events or how quickly the President can fly across the Atlantic or what other business he has on his schedule but I imagine between the two most Americans would agree he should be in Boston.
 
It's a non-issue if the intent is to show disrespect to one of the great figures of the second half of the 20th century.:2ukflag:

I think that every last person who is calling it "a non-issue" identifies himself or herself as "liberal" or "progressive".
 
:lamo Is that right?.....Yeah, see, I see it the other way around....If progressives hadn't dragged this country so far left, they'd see that calling right of center individuals 'extreme' is laughable....This isn't the country I grew up in either my friend.

That merely indicates your distance from reality.
 
I think that every last person who is calling it "a non-issue" identifies himself or herself as "liberal" or "progressive".

Or someone with common sense and without a desire to be outraged at every turn.
 
:lamo Is that right?.....Yeah, see, I see it the other way around....If progressives hadn't dragged this country so far left, they'd see that calling right of center individuals 'extreme' is laughable....This isn't the country I grew up in either my friend.

I hear this same mythology from both the Left and the Right: The US is so progressive and out in front of the rest of the world: No, it isn't. The US is an oldfashioned, reactionary country. The fact that gay marriage is "legal" in most of New England no more makes America a progressive country than ***** Riot makes Russia a nation of libertines........................
 
:lamo Is that right?.....Yeah, see, I see it the other way around....If progressives hadn't dragged this country so far left, they'd see that calling right of center individuals 'extreme' is laughable....This isn't the country I grew up in either my friend.
The country moved left all on its own after the suburbanites were exposed to all the bigotry, hatred, and suffering that had been lying behind the fence of white Christian America for the decades of the mid-20th century.

Of course, some still prefer to live in the past . . . . . but hey, there's always Leave it to Beaver reruns :mrgreen:
 
Good evening, Bonz! :2wave:

Another plus, IMO! And the British "Left" will be well represented tomorrow. It's the right thing to do, Bonz. :applaud:

Mr Milliband's tribute to her in the House of Commons was terrific.
 
I can see how some folks would see Pres. Obama not attending the former British Prime Minister's funeral as a snub. After all, Toni Blair attended Reagan's funeral and he wasn't Prime Minister during the Reagan era. But as has already been pointed out, Pres. Obama has a lot on his plate these days especially in the immediate aftermath of the Boston Marathon bombings. Do you really want your nation's leader attending a funeral while your country is investigating a domestic terror attack?

I didn't think so.

Find something else to complain about, folks. This ain't it.
 
I hear this same mythology from both the Left and the Right: The US is so progressive and out in front of the rest of the world: No, it isn't. [...]
Which firmly places those who claim it is on the extremes :)
 
Obama is basically right of center. If the Right hadn't gone so rightwing extremist over the last 30 years, they would see that. This is not the country I grew up in and it hasn't been for 30 years now...............................

:lol:
 
Who cares, it's a freaking funeral for someone who hasn't been in politics for over 20 years. I don't think our President should have sent anyone if they didn't want to go. There's a lot more important **** for our leader to worry about than this.
 
O hasn't discovered a cure for cancer, but he HAS made himself a serial snubber of the U.K. which, last I checked, is one of our closest allies.


many of you didnt get what i just did.

over your heads.
 
It's not an insult. I just think griping about not having a rep of the US government there isn't a major issue. Personally, if a president of the US died and the UK didn't send anyone to the funeral I wouldn't be too offended, especially if the UK just suffered a domestic attack.

It would be an exaggeration to say that you'd be the only American who wouldn't be offended, but not by much. And why bring up Boston? His decision to snub Britain was made before yesterday's attack.
 
I can see how some folks would see Pres. Obama not attending the former British Prime Minister's funeral as a snub. After all, Toni Blair attended Reagan's funeral and he wasn't Prime Minister during the Reagan era. But as has already been pointed out, Pres. Obama has a lot on his plate these days especially in the immediate aftermath of the Boston Marathon bombings. Do you really want your nation's leader attending a funeral while your country is investigating a domestic terror attack?

I didn't think so.

Find something else to complain about, folks. This ain't it.

Are you saying that O's decision to snub the funeral was made yesterday afternoon???
 
Who cares, it's a freaking funeral for someone who hasn't been in politics for over 20 years. I don't think our President should have sent anyone if they didn't want to go. There's a lot more important **** for our leader to worry about than this.

You're expecting the world to snub the Carter funeral when the time comes [hopefully not for many more years]?
 
Funny how every criticism of Obama is a "non-issue" with you, Pete. He must be the first President, ever, who never took the slightest misstep.

There are diplomatic protocols to this sort thing, and Obama is flouting them. And even if there weren't, our closest ally deserves better.

Just an observation- seems President Obama has not made one major correct step in your book. The person I feel is dropping the ball is BushII. He is the closest President we still have mobile enough to attend AND is the most politically compatible to Thatcher. He needs to get over it and attend the funeral.

Churchill was a remarkable leader of the British people
Disraeli was a remarkable leader
Queen Victoria...

In the British Empire's long history I'd say Thatcher is a push.
 
You're expecting the world to snub the Carter funeral when the time comes [hopefully not for many more years]?

No, I don't expect the world to snub it, just as the world didn't snub Thatcher's funeral.
 
Back
Top Bottom