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Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

wbcoleman said:
If he can make decisions while he's golfing in Hawaii, why not in London?
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No, the President was needed here because of the bombings. But the decision not to go was surely made before that. I would think that a President would have his Vice President head the American delegation. Isn't that de rigueur?

Not with either Obama Admin, apparently. This isn't the first time he has been, in my opinion, cavalier with the British.
 
nota bene said:
No, the President was needed here because of the bombings. But the decision not to go was surely made before that. I would think that a President would have his Vice President head the American delegation. Isn't that de rigueur?

Not with either Obama Admin, apparently. This isn't the first time he has been, in my opinion, cavalier with the British.
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And yet despite the return of Churchill's bust, the crappy CD set from Walmart that doesn't work and this Obama sells out U.K. to Russia despite his popularity there | J.P. Freire | Beltway Confidential | San Francisco Examiner , the Brits still like him.

It's much like Chance the Gardener in Being There.
 
samsmart said:
Sure.
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Easy to say, but the world doesn't work that way. This was a state funeral in all but name, and a high-level U.S. delegation was required. It wasn't even a question of honoring Mrs Thatcher, it was a question of honoring the United Kingdom, our close friend and ally.
 
If Obama had sent Bidden, J-mac would complain that Obama himself didn't go. I personally think he should have just sent Reagan's corpse. Maybe that would have made some idiots happy.
 
Grant said:
And yet despite the return of Churchill's bust, the crappy CD set from Walmart that doesn't work and this Obama sells out U.K. to Russia despite his popularity there | J.P. Freire | Beltway Confidential | San Francisco Examiner , the Brits still like him.

It's much like Chance the Gardener in Being There.
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Unlike Americans, the Brits don't buy the tea party's lumpen propaganda. Not to mention the fact that half of them despise Thatcher, since they had to suffer under her misrule and listen to her horrid schoolmarm voice.
 
wbcoleman said:
Americans might notice which of our allies decide to snub the future commemorations of Presidents Carter or Bush.
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I don' think they will. I think when Obama goes, then we will see the snub.
 
Wiseone said:
Just an FYI, Obama will be at the memorial for the Boston Marathon on Thursday while Thatcher's funeral is on Wednesday, now I don't know the times of each of these events or how quickly the President can fly across the Atlantic or what other business he has on his schedule but I imagine between the two most Americans would agree he should be in Boston.
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Ah, but you see it is his responsibility to be at the funeral of a former head of state while it is not his responsibility to be at the funeral of a private person who died in Boston. He is going to the funeral in Boston to look good even though he has no place there.
 
Objective Voice said:
I can see how some folks would see Pres. Obama not attending the former British Prime Minister's funeral as a snub. After all, Toni Blair attended Reagan's funeral and he wasn't Prime Minister during the Reagan era. But as has already been pointed out, Pres. Obama has a lot on his plate these days especially in the immediate aftermath of the Boston Marathon bombings. Do you really want your nation's leader attending a funeral while your country is investigating a domestic terror attack?

I didn't think so.

Find something else to complain about, folks. This ain't it.
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What investigation is Obama personally doing exactly? Why does he need to be here while the investigation is ongoing?
 
j-mac said:
I'll let this piece speak for me....

"A few hours after Margaret Thatcher's death on Monday, the snarling deadbeats of the British underclass were gleefully rampaging through the streets of Brixton in South London, scaling the marquee of the local fleapit and hanging a banner announcing, "THE BITCH IS DEAD."
Amazingly, they managed to spell all four words correctly. By Friday, "Ding Dong! The Witch Is Dead", from The Wizard of Oz, was the Number One download at Amazon UK.
Mrs. Thatcher would have enjoyed all this. Her former speechwriter John O'Sullivan recalls how, some years after leaving office, she arrived to address a small group at an English seaside resort to be greeted by enraged lefties chanting "Thatcher Thatcher Thatcher! Fascist Fascist Fascist!" She turned to her aide and cooed, "Oh, doesn't it make you feel nostalgic?"
She was said to be delighted to hear that a concession stand at last year's Trades Union Congress was doing a brisk business in "Thatcher Death Party Packs", almost a quarter-century after her departure from office.
Of course, it would have been asking too much of Britain's torpid left to rouse themselves to do anything more than sing a few songs and smash a few windows. In The Wizard of Oz, the witch is struck down at the height of her powers by Dorothy's shack descending from Kansas to relieve the Munchkins of their torments.
By comparison, Britain's Moochkins were unable to bring the house down: Mrs Thatcher died in her bed at the Ritz at a grand old age. Useless as they are, British Socialists were at one point capable of writing their own anti-Thatcher singalongs rather than lazily appropriating Judy Garland blockbusters from MGM's back catalogue. I recall in the late Eighties being at the National Theatre in London and watching the crowd go wild over Adrian Mitchell's showstopper, "F**k-Off Friday", a song about union workers getting their redundancy notices at the end of the week, culminating with the lines:
"I can't wait for
That great day when
F**k-Off Friday
Comes to Number Ten."


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Please correct me if I am wrong but isn't it illegal in Britain to say negative things against Islam or Muslims?
 
Mason66 said:
Ah, but you see it is his responsibility to be at the funeral of a former head of state while it is not his responsibility to be at the funeral of a private person who died in Boston. He is going to the funeral in Boston to look good even though he has no place there.
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I think he has a greater responsibility to the American people than to Ms. Thatcher
 
polgara said:
Good morning, Grant! :2wave:

Excellent post! :thumbs:

It makes one wonder why BHO seems to want to concentrate his efforts on people's baser natures, instead of encouraging everyone to strive to be the best they can be! The great leaders throughout history are all remembered for their words and deeds that encouraged people to rise above where they were, not sliding by and always taking the easy road... which gains little in neither self respect nor success. :shock:
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What speeches or words will Obama be remembered by? I wonder.
 
Diogenes said:
Biden is much more of a clown than Quayle ever was. My comment stands. :roll:
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When Quayle was VP I didn't hear much about him at all other tan the misspelling incident.
 
Wiseone said:
I think he has a greater responsibility to the American people than to Ms. Thatcher
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Really? Representing the US in a situation like this is his job.What exactly is he doing that cannot be put off for 2 days?
 
Wiseone said:
I think he has a greater responsibility to the American people than to Ms. Thatcher
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Barrack Obama is responsible for the American people? They can't do without him for a few days? He really has created a dependency culture.

But, in any case, this isn't about Barrack Obama. It's about respect and commiseration between nations, friends and allies.
 
Grant said:
Barrack Obama is responsible for the American people? They can't do without him for a few days? He really has created a dependency culture.

But, in any case, this isn't about Barrack Obama. It's about respect and commiseration between nations, friends and allies.
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I said "responsible to" not "responsible for." You know words and their definitions, gotta learn em.
 
Grant said:
Barrack Obama is responsible for the American people?
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That's what I was told by Republicans and Fox News for three months after the Benghazi attacks. So I guess you'll need to ask them.
 
Wiseone said:
I said "responsible to" not "responsible for." You know words and their definitions, gotta learn em.
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Okay, so he is "responsible to" the American people. In what way? What do you expect him to do during the two or three days he would be away. And isn't attending state funerals of allies, especially one with the status of Margaret Thatcher, an important part of his job?

Why would the United States possibly miss Barrack Obama?
 
Grant said:
Okay, so he is "responsible to" the American people. In what way? What do you expect him to do during the two or three days he would be away. And isn't attending state funerals of allies, especially one with the status of Margaret Thatcher, an important part of his job?

Why would the United States possibly miss Barrack Obama?
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For Far Right Wingers like you, He can't win to lose...

If he goes (after the Boston Bombing, Letters with poison and the explosion in Waco) he's abandoning his presidential responsibilities, and if something bigger came of it and he was in England, you guys would never let him live it down.

If he doesn't go, due to the Thatcher - Reagan connection which makes Far Right Wing loony toons cream their pants at night he's disrespecting an ally that those same far right wing loons will happily call European Socialists and Nanny State sheeple the sentence proceeding it.

So all in all, he wasn't going to win with you from day 1 no matter what he does.

So your opinion is naught.
 
wbcoleman said:
If he can make decisions while he's golfing in Hawaii, why not in London?
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He would be able to make decisions while he's on London, but being at the White House puts him closer to the FBI and other federal agencies that are assisting Boston. Decisions might be made faster that way. Ultimately he needs to do what he feels best helps the situations we are currently dealing with.

I know you really want people to join you in this and just be outraged, but you're not going to get that. You're going to garner the support of the typical partisans that complain about anything that anyone that doesn't agree with them does, and then everyone else is going to be wondering why it irks you so much that while receiving threats from North Korea and right after a domestic bombing he wouldn't go to a funeral for a prime minister that he's never even met.

If you count out the NK thing and the bombing, then I'd agree, it really would be more appropriate for him to go, but it's not some huge slap in the face if he doesn't.
 
Grant said:
And isn't attending state funerals of allies, especially one with the status of Margaret Thatcher, an important part of his job?
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No, because you and others on the right would be bitching and whining like babies about the cost of the travel.
 
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