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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Therefore your answer is do nothing. Seriously, you are such a hack. You don't even try to hide it.
    What is John Kerry doing to prevent North Korea from doing what they want? Any ideas?

    But I can see where his presence at the funeral of Margaret Thatcher wouldn't have made much difference either.

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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That was their "empire", huh?

    Indochina was obviously not too interested in being part of their empire. The Maginot line was certainly not going to protect their 'empire'.
    I'm not grading or supporting their empire, I'm merely stating how France was fully drawn into the Allied camp.........................

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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    I don't think it was a deliberate snub. She has been retired for quite a long time. Sending no one would have been a snub imo.
    So had Churchill, hadn't he?

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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    I'm not grading or supporting their empire, I'm merely stating how France was fully drawn into the Allied camp.........................
    I'm not sure where you're getting your history because the French were never 'fully drawn'.

    This is generally accepted as to what happened.

    "Marshal Pétain collaborated with the German occupying forces in exchange for an agreement not to divide France between the Axis powers. Germany kept two million French soldiers in Germany as forced labourers to enforce its term. Vichy authorities aided in the rounding-up of Jews and other "undesirables". At times in the colonies Vichy French military forces actively opposed the Allies. Despite its pro-Nazi policies, much of the French public initially supported the new government, seeing it as necessary to maintain a degree of French autonomy and territorial integrity".

    Vichy France - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'm not sure where you're getting your history because the French were never 'fully drawn'.

    This is generally accepted as to what happened.

    "Marshal Pétain collaborated with the German occupying forces in exchange for an agreement not to divide France between the Axis powers. Germany kept two million French soldiers in Germany as forced labourers to enforce its term. Vichy authorities aided in the rounding-up of Jews and other "undesirables". At times in the colonies Vichy French military forces actively opposed the Allies. Despite its pro-Nazi policies, much of the French public initially supported the new government, seeing it as necessary to maintain a degree of French autonomy and territorial integrity".

    Vichy France - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    That's basically correct, but it doesn't take into consideration the large number of French who were opposed to German rule and saw Vichy as a joke and Petain as a German puppet..................

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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    That's basically correct, but it doesn't take into consideration the large number of French who were opposed to German rule and saw Vichy as a joke and Petain as a German puppet..................
    Yes, after the war. But we are also drifting away from the topic.

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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, after the war. But we are also drifting away from the topic.
    You obviously have bought into the entire AngloAmerican meme..............................

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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    You obviously have bought into the entire AngloAmerican meme..............................
    Yes, perhaps I have, but Nazism was just never a turn-on for me.

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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, perhaps I have, but Nazism was just never a turn-on for me.
    Looking at events from different perspectives other than what we were raised in is not Nazism...........................

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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Looking at events from different perspectives other than what we were raised in is not Nazism...........................
    At the time it was AngloAmerican versus Nazism and you are correct that I bought into the entire AngloAmerican meme. I bear no shame for this.

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