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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It's not an insult. I just think griping about not having a rep of the US government there isn't a major issue. Personally, if a president of the US died and the UK didn't send anyone to the funeral I wouldn't be too offended, especially if the UK just suffered a domestic attack.
    Don't forget that he's trying to pass a budget deal with the GOP-controlled House and the Democrat-controlled Senate. Chances are he didn't arrange to go because of that reason. There's just too many domestic issues for him to deal with right now.
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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I'll let this piece speak for me....

    "A few hours after Margaret Thatcher's death on Monday, the snarling deadbeats of the British underclass were gleefully rampaging through the streets of Brixton in South London, scaling the marquee of the local fleapit and hanging a banner announcing, "THE BITCH IS DEAD."
    Amazingly, they managed to spell all four words correctly. By Friday, "Ding Dong! The Witch Is Dead", from The Wizard of Oz, was the Number One download at Amazon UK.
    Mrs. Thatcher would have enjoyed all this. Her former speechwriter John O'Sullivan recalls how, some years after leaving office, she arrived to address a small group at an English seaside resort to be greeted by enraged lefties chanting "Thatcher Thatcher Thatcher! Fascist Fascist Fascist!" She turned to her aide and cooed, "Oh, doesn't it make you feel nostalgic?"
    She was said to be delighted to hear that a concession stand at last year's Trades Union Congress was doing a brisk business in "Thatcher Death Party Packs", almost a quarter-century after her departure from office.
    Of course, it would have been asking too much of Britain's torpid left to rouse themselves to do anything more than sing a few songs and smash a few windows. In The Wizard of Oz, the witch is struck down at the height of her powers by Dorothy's shack descending from Kansas to relieve the Munchkins of their torments.
    By comparison, Britain's Moochkins were unable to bring the house down: Mrs Thatcher died in her bed at the Ritz at a grand old age. Useless as they are, British Socialists were at one point capable of writing their own anti-Thatcher singalongs rather than lazily appropriating Judy Garland blockbusters from MGM's back catalogue. I recall in the late Eighties being at the National Theatre in London and watching the crowd go wild over Adrian Mitchell's showstopper, "F**k-Off Friday", a song about union workers getting their redundancy notices at the end of the week, culminating with the lines:
    "I can't wait for
    That great day when
    F**k-Off Friday
    Comes to Number Ten."


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    Indeed.

    So she wasn't as universally respected or loved by the people of the United Kingdom as it seems. And perhaps with good reason.
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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Indeed.

    So she wasn't as universally respected or loved by the people of the United Kingdom as it seems. And perhaps with good reason.
    Or maybe it's because she bucked the labor union push toward the morass of quasi socialist push toward mediocrity. No leader is everything to everyone, but is it too much to ask that they at least lead? She did.
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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    I think that every last person who is calling it "a non-issue" identifies himself or herself as "liberal" or "progressive".
    Oh, well that identifies you as somebody that has no idea what "liberal" or "progressive" actually means.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Oh, well that identifies you as somebody that has no idea what "liberal" or "progressive" actually means.

    Yes, because hitting the nail on the head, regardless of the cowardly lean posted by some who are deep down ashamed of admitting their true lean is call for most Alenski-ites to claim not that they are outed, but rather that one 'just doesn't understand'.....What a crock.
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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yes, because hitting the nail on the head, regardless of the cowardly lean posted by some who are deep down ashamed of admitting their true lean is call for most Alenski-ites to claim not that they are outed, but rather that one 'just doesn't understand'.....What a crock.
    He was suggesting that if you don't care that Obama didn't go to the funeral that you are a liberal or a progressive. Look up the definitions J. They have nothing to do with each other. Am I a libertarian because I think Ron Paul seems like a nice guy? **** no. It has nothing to do with libertarianism. Just like this has nothing to do with liberalism.

    And really? Bringing up Alenski? WTF does that have to do with anything other than paranoid delusions?
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

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    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    He was suggesting that if you don't care that Obama didn't go to the funeral that you are a liberal or a progressive. Look up the definitions J. They have nothing to do with each other. Am I a libertarian because I think Ron Paul seems like a nice guy? **** no. It has nothing to do with libertarianism. Just like this has nothing to do with liberalism.
    Most everyone who follows politics understands who and what 'liberals' or 'progressives' are, though they are often confused themselves.

    All you need do is look at the previous posts by SamSmart who said that BHO was too busy (Sure!) and then in the next post said that Thatcher wasn't universally liked anyway. These are the usual silly excuses we get from the leftists. All over the map but willing to defend their man no matter what the cost to their own integrity.

    And really? Bringing up Alenski? WTF does that have to do with anything other than paranoid delusions?
    Because saul Alinsky played a large part in designing the modern 'progressive' mind, and we can see the consequences everywhere.

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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    -- As I understand it, Thatcher did some very serious damage to the manufacturing base in the UK in order to make London the financial center of Europe.
    Two separate things here. 1 she stopped the government subsidies going to inefficient state owned manufacturing. 2, she deregulated the city of London stock market which led to the city becoming a major financial centre.

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    -- There were a lot of workers who lost their jobs because of this economic shift.
    There were a lot of people made unemployed from the state industries but these were centres which were going to go anyway. Previously, over 250 mines were closed by the Labour party in the 60's but you never hear about complaints of unemployment or attacks on the working class about this. Thatcher's period in power saw 180 or so mines closed but this gets all the attention because she was a radical Conservative.

    One thing many who complain about Thatcher's actions forget is that the EEC had brought in laws about state sponsored / subsidised companies so changes were going to happen anyway - nobody on the socialist side here in the UK / Europe ever mentions this when attacking Thatcher.

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    --And it's currently causing the UK a lot of problems since they no longer have the manufacturing base that is now leaving China and going back to more developed countries for more advanced types of manufacturing, such as the US.
    Our manufacturing went a different way, 1.6 million jobs were created during Thatcher's period however a lot more in the heavy industries were lost. We may have less of a manufacture based but it's not laughing stock manufacture which was the case in the 70's.

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    --This is why there were people in the UK who drank a bottle of champagne at news of her death.

    So it would be more accurate to say that Margaret Thatcher was respected by the people of Britain - except for those who didn't. And most of those lost their jobs because of her policies, and her policies have come back to bite the UK.
    Most who drank to her death were socialists or had views which were more in line with the old USSR in the 70's. There was no mass riot or protest at her funeral today and the protest parties all fizzled out anyway.

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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Reality jarring with your mythology Skipinder? The people he gassed were Kurds with a "K", The ones you were so upset about when Saddam did it. (with his US supplied gas)
    Churchill was a low level alcoholic and a mediocre politician. He also saved England - the right man in the right place in history. He was no saint. He was good enough, and that's enough for me. There's no honor in denigrating an obviously good man, whatever his faults may have been.

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    Re: Obama sends former officials to Thatcher funeral

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    Most everyone who follows politics understands who and what 'liberals' or 'progressives' are, though they are often confused themselves.

    All you need do is look at the previous posts by SamSmart who said that BHO was too busy (Sure!) and then in the next post said that Thatcher wasn't universally liked anyway. These are the usual silly excuses we get from the leftists. All over the map but willing to defend their man no matter what the cost to their own integrity.



    Because saul Alinsky played a large part in designing the modern 'progressive' mind, and we can see the consequences everywhere.
    1. So if someone thinks that the president might be busy with a domestic bombing and North Korea that means they are a liberal? Did you think before you typed that? You're insults, btw, do nothing to further the conversation.

    2. He wrote a book that very few people have read that some of the more unstudied conservatives out there give way too much credit.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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