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    Justices Refuse Case on Gun Law in New York

    This is not the end of the controversy as is noted in the article. Refusing to take the NY case would seem to be in conflict with decisions made in lower level Federal courts

    Justices Refuse Case on Gun Law in New York

    WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court said Monday that it would not weigh in on a major Second Amendment question that has divided the lower courts: May states bar or strictly limit the carrying of guns in public for self-defense?

    The justices turned down a case concerning a New York State law that requires people seeking permits for carrying guns in public to demonstrate that they have a special need for self-protection. In urging the justices to hear the case, the National Rifle Association called the law “a de facto ban on carrying a handgun outside the home.”

    Additional cases presenting essentially the same question are likely to reach the court in the coming months.

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    Re: Justices Refuse Case on Gun Law in New York

    They refused it, I'm sure, because of politics. If they were to find in favor of New York, it would be an attack on the second amendment. If they were to find against New York, they would fear a country like the wild west where everyone carried a gun. Neither is positive outcome. In other words, they chickened out.

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    Re: Justices Refuse Case on Gun Law in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    They refused it, I'm sure, because of politics. If they were to find in favor of New York, it would be an attack on the second amendment. If they were to find against New York, they would fear a country like the wild west where everyone carried a gun. Neither is positive outcome. In other words, they chickened out.
    none of the 45+ states that have sensible shall issue laws have had wild west outcomes

    some think its because the circuit court encompasses CT as well



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    Re: Justices Refuse Case on Gun Law in New York

    The law remains in effect. What will boomsticklovers do now?

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    Re: Justices Refuse Case on Gun Law in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    They refused it, I'm sure, because of politics. If they were to find in favor of New York, it would be an attack on the second amendment. If they were to find against New York, they would fear a country like the wild west where everyone carried a gun. Neither is positive outcome. In other words, they chickened out.
    Is there some reason that the only outcomes are "attack on the 2nd amendment" and "wild west?" Like, nothing in between maybe?
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    Re: Justices Refuse Case on Gun Law in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    The law remains in effect. What will boomsticklovers do now?
    Not live in New York or any other nanny state.
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    Re: Justices Refuse Case on Gun Law in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    They refused it, I'm sure, because of politics. If they were to find in favor of New York, it would be an attack on the second amendment. If they were to find against New York, they would fear a country like the wild west where everyone carried a gun. Neither is positive outcome. In other words, they chickened out.
    I don't understand why the SCOTUS should be able to refuse any case that's worked its way up to that level. I agree: They chickened out.
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    Re: Justices Refuse Case on Gun Law in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    They refused it, I'm sure, because of politics. If they were to find in favor of New York, it would be an attack on the second amendment. If they were to find against New York, they would fear a country like the wild west where everyone carried a gun. Neither is positive outcome. In other words, they chickened out.
    I have to disagree. Check the actual crime rates in the "wild west", if you can find them and compare them to today. The earliest I have seen for murder go back to around 1900, and the murder rate then was so low compared to today, that every murder would be break in news on CNN, not a page 10 blurb in the local paper.
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    Re: Justices Refuse Case on Gun Law in New York

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Is there some reason that the only outcomes are "attack on the 2nd amendment" and "wild west?" Like, nothing in between maybe?
    I hope not. I was born and raised in the wild west and love it dearly.

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    Re: Justices Refuse Case on Gun Law in New York

    The last bolded line of the OP says it all. They'll take a case that represents the many flavors of the new gun laws in the various states. Preferrable to making whack-a-mole decisions.

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