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Explosions reported near finish line at Boston Marathon [W:162, 896, 911]]

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No, we are not a third world country, and we are far from lawless. Generally speaking, most crime and violence has been trending downward for about 40 years.

However, there are always nuts, or fanatics, or politically-motivated extremists, who can justify to themselves the harm and killing of people we would consider "innocent" for their purposes, and short of a police state it is very hard to stop them all.

Personally I'd rather accept a certain level of violence than live in a police state.

Possible nut: Authorities ID suspect as Saudi national in marathon bombings, under guard at Boston hospital - NYPOST.com
 
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So anyone with a beef can just set off bombs and kill or injure innocent people?? I thought Sandy Hook was unimaginable, but this? I hope they find the b******s! :shock:


Anyone with access to fertilizer (a common material) and diesel fuel (a common material) and shrapnel (most anything will do, metal scraps say) and a modicum of know-how can make a bomb that will do extensive harm.


Do you have any suggestions as to how we could guarantee such things cannot happen? (short of an Orwellian state where "Big Brother" is always watching you...)
 
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they are trying their best. i'm listening to CNN and the Wolf.

CNN reporting nearing 50 injured, so i don't like saying this, but most likely there are more dead then just two.

Current count, 12 dead 50+ injured.
 
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Homemade devices would mean their leaning more in the directions of something homegrown. CNN just said one of the Bombs hit the JFK library. Cops talking on CNN now breaking.

The Third explosion occurred an hour ago at JFK Library separate from the Marathon.

They have to be home made as Semtex is extremely difficult to get a hold of. Most likely fuel and fertilizer.
 
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they are trying their best. i'm listening to CNN and the Wolf.

CNN reporting nearing 50 injured, so i don't like saying this, but most likely there are more dead then just two.
There are more dead. I think we'll have to wait a while to get the final number. Some injuries were very serious.
 
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They have to be home made as Semtex is extremely difficult to get a hold of. Most likely fuel and fertilizer.
A veteran nearby said he smelled cordite.
 
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With large crowds, how can they control something like this? Have we moved to a third world lawless country? People dead...people missing limbs? Horrible! :shock:

You cannot control something like this. We are not a lawless country--don't let the act of one distort your worldview. It is horrible nonetheless. I am amazed nobody has done this on Black Friday myself. Regardless, my best wishes to the victims and their families.
 
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Latest:

Citing a US intelligence official, the Associated Press reports two more explosive devices have been found at the Boston Marathon and are being dismantled.

BBC News - LIVE: Boston Marathon explosions

Looks like this was supposed to be alot bigger, but someone didn't get it all right.
 
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they are trying their best. i'm listening to CNN and the Wolf.

CNN reporting nearing 50 injured, so i don't like saying this, but most likely there are more dead then just two.

probably so with amputees reportedly backing up in the hospital.
 
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My initial thoughts.....

It's Tax Day across the country as well as Patriots Day in MA and ME. This seems like domestic terrorism rather than an Al Qaeda attack. It seems to have been aimed at the average people, not the international runners at the front of the pack.

Horrible event. Thankfully the Emergency personnel seem to have been right I the ball.

three confirmed explosions now..... JFK Library. Possibly a fourth at Tufts Medical Center.
 
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probably so with amputees reportedly backing up in the hospital.


Ugh. Yup... losing a limb means a major artery severed, pretty much. Gotta get that bleeding under control quickly or else.

This is a very ugly thing.
 
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They need to release footage of the area surrounding the explosion. I am sure they have people looking at it, but anyone with little reaction to the explosion. Anyone watching where the explosions occur. Anything of that nature will be key to this investigation. They don't need to just find out when the explosives were planted, but see if anyone was aware it was going to occur.

I wonder how much evidence was created from the blast. If they can recover parts from the explosives...timers, switches, wires, fuses, anything of that nature. If it was (as is being suggested by the media morons)...the cell phones being shut off may be indicative of the type used...but cell phone bombs concern me. That means some time and effort went into this. Someone had some form of technical knowledge using a cell phone...but at the same time it honestly is not that hard to create a bomb. It depends on the type of explosive...and not so much on the ignition switch.
 
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My initial thoughts.....

It's Tax Day across the country as well as Patriots Day in MA and ME. This seems like domestic terrorism rather than an Al Qaeda attack. It seems to have been aimed at the average people, not the international runners at the front of the pack.

Horrible event. Thankfully the Emergency personnel seem to have been right I the ball.

three confirmed explosions now..... JFK Library. Possibly a fourth at Tufts Medical Center.



Latest word is a Saudi has been detained as a suspect... but given the MSM's track record of bad early reporting, the guy probably has red hair and freckles and and grew up in Dublin...
 
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another pointless act of violence.

best wishes, prayers, and good thoughts for those affected.
I'm quoting this rather than issuing anything right now because this is how I personally feel. Not good.
 
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I have friends who were on the finish line volunteering/watching. Sadly I cannot get in touch with them yet :(.
I hope they are okay man. Prayers going your way, glad you're safe.
 
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They need to release footage of the area surrounding the explosion. I am sure they have people looking at it, but anyone with little reaction to the explosion. Anyone watching where the explosions occur. Anything of that nature will be key to this investigation. They don't need to just find out when the explosives were planted, but see if anyone was aware it was going to occur.

I wonder how much evidence was created from the blast. If they can recover parts from the explosives...timers, switches, wires, fuses, anything of that nature. If it was (as is being suggested by the media morons)...the cell phones being shut off may be indicative of the type used...but cell phone bombs concern me. That means some time and effort went into this. Someone had some form of technical knowledge using a cell phone...but at the same time it honestly is not that hard to create a bomb. It depends on the type of explosive...and not so much on the ignition switch.

This is why I have no problem with surveillance cameras -- I wonder how many they have in the downtown area -- by law enforcement and individual businesses. I hope they catch the son of a bitch(es). Soon.

I also think law enforcement should be telling people who were taking pictures in that area all day long to look carefully at their pictures and, if they see anything suspicious, to report it to the tip line. With all the digital media out there during this event, we probably have a picture of the guy(s) somewhere.
 
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I hope they are okay man. Prayers going your way, glad you're safe.

I've talked to some, not all, but so far only one person is going to the hospital. It sounds like her parents want her to go because she is pretty cut up, but nothing overly serious. She and her boyfriend are going to a hospital outside the city because all the ones in the city are packed.
 
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if there is ANY speculation or any question about this, yes it is terrorism.

but, from who??
 
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The Wolf is also saying that at 6 Pm Eastern that Washington DC Police Chief will be holding a interview as to the security DC has put up. NY also increasing security. Just in case they say.
 
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This is why I have no problem with surveillance cameras -- I wonder how many they have in the downtown area -- by law enforcement and individual businesses. I hope they catch the son of a bitch(es). Soon.

I also think law enforcement should be telling people who were taking pictures in that area all day long to look carefully at their pictures and, if they see anything suspicious, to report it to the tip line. With all the digital media out there during this event, we probably have a picture of the guy(s) somewhere.

There is a third event at the FJK Library.. They think its ongoing..

This is an act of terrorism.
 
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A veteran nearby said he smelled cordite.

They use cordite in building demolition right ?
 
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They have to be home made as Semtex is extremely difficult to get a hold of. Most likely fuel and fertilizer.

I believe the HSD began regulating and the NSA began monitoring Ammonium Nitrate sales in 2012. So it's not that easy to get in sufficient quantities without attracting notice.
 
Explosions reported near finish line at Boston Marathon

This is why I have no problem with surveillance cameras -- I wonder how many they have in the downtown area -- by law enforcement and individual businesses. I hope they catch the son of a bitch(es). Soon.

I also think law enforcement should be telling people who were taking pictures in that area all day long to look carefully at their pictures and, if they see anything suspicious, to report it to the tip line. With all the digital media out there during this event, we probably have a picture of the guy(s) somewhere.

Absolutely. Check hotels along the route as well. Elevated positions that can observe the bombs. I wonder if it were possible to cross the street anywhere along the route?

I have some issues with surveillance equipment everywhere, but not so much within cities for the exact same reason. I agree. Police need to encourage photo observation as well as videos to be published. If this person was good they could avoid detection regardless of the number of cameras...but big breaks can occur.
 
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