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    Re: Explosions reported near finish line at Boston Marathon

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    But when the "bad guys win a round", that is failure on the part of our government.
    That....or life. I mean I guess we can define everything not being absolutely perfect as a failure of government; but it seems rather that it's the human condition. Some people choose to act more like our monkey relatives and f things up. The government can't protect you from everything.
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    Re: Explosions reported near finish line at Boston Marathon [W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I think Boston has done an amazing job with this--nothing but respect for them. Someone who wanted to kill a lot of people sort of picked the worst place to do it in the marathon because of the medical tent being right there fully staffed in a city with a lot of top notch hospitals which did brilliantly. As for the investigation--that will pan itself out.
    My guess is that the bomber thought there would be more damage because of the timing of the race, this is when as others stated most of the Americans finish so the bomber might have wanted to hit family members specifically. Placement and internals of the IEDs suggest to me that the desire was to injure and kill rather than to simply make a statement, either way the attacker is sub human trash.
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    Re: Explosions reported near finish line at Boston Marathon

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Anytime the government does not protect us civilians from things like that, it is failure on their part because it is their function to protect us from things like that. The men running around carrying guns, bomb-dogs, etc - agents of the law - they failed. There's simply no getting around that.



    Every government fails sooner or later.

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    Re: Explosions reported near finish line at Boston Marathon

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Who's watching the East Coast, the West Coast, the Gulf Coast, and the Northern Alaska Coast?
    Southerners are watching the gulf coast, all good here.
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    Re: Explosions reported near finish line at Boston Marathon [W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I hope it can't be traced to radical Muslims.
    I doubt it's radical Muslims. They would have said something by now. When the radicals strike, they'll usually tell you it was them, and they tend to have a fetish for symbolic targets. I can't imagine that some marathon in Boston would mean jack-**** to them.

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    First, you have to imagine you're a sick ****. (God! I hope that's very difficult for you! )

    Then you have to imagine you're the sick **** who planted those bombs. Imagine the ultimate kick that sick **** would get from watching wall-to-wall news coverage...videos played over every channel over and over and over again. And, just maybe, your face in the crowd. And there you sit in front of the television with your dick in your hand saying: "I DID THAT!!!! "
    I don't think I want to imagine any of that. I can understand standard crime, robbery, murder, assault, etc. Those all have tangible reasons and gains, but this new breed of trigger happy shot jockey just doesn't make any sense to me. We should start analyzing the ones we're able to capture and convict. Hardcore analysis, the kind that makes the ACLU reach half-mast.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Explosions reported near finish line at Boston Marathon

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    IF you knew ahead of time WHICH person you wanted to keep out, you could.
    Not necessarily.

    What if they changed appearance?
    Entered at an unexpected place?
    Or any number of other options to make it nigh-impossible to find them at all, let alone stop their entry into the country...
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    Re: Explosions reported near finish line at Boston Marathon

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    It doesn't matter how I think they could have prevented it or how I think they failed, what matters most, as you clearly know, is that they did fail. The most important thing now is to get a complete and accurate accounting of the events in which we can glean a full understanding of them. And in order to get that, we need transparency. It best serves so we don't have episodes like this again.
    I don't see there being any way to prevent all such attacks. I don't really think anyone is to blame except the bomber (s).

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    Re: Explosions reported near finish line at Boston Marathon

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    It doesn't matter how I think they could have prevented it or how I think they failed, what matters most, as you clearly know, is that they did fail. The most important thing now is to get a complete and accurate accounting of the events in which we can glean a full understanding of them. And in order to get that, we need transparency. It best serves so we don't have episodes like this again.
    We will have episodes like this again.
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    Re: Explosions reported near finish line at Boston Marathon

    I think America should take a look at the IRA bombings of the UK which went on for several decades and realise that unfortunately it is very difficult to stop these kind of attacks, you just have to make sure every city is equipped to handle the aftermath.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Explosions reported near finish line at Boston Marathon [W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    I doubt it's radical Muslims. They would have said something by now. When the radicals strike, they'll usually tell you it was them, and they tend to have a fetish for symbolic targets. I can't imagine that some marathon in Boston would mean jack-**** to them.
    The marathon would not. The fact it is so highly televised throughout the world does. They have been promoting lone wolf and small cell attacks on large scale sporting events for a long time. They have no issues killing men, women or children. It is not even a concern. Looks like they may have gotten lucky with this one but we will see.
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